From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fed1rmmtao04.cox.net ([68.230.241.35]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1BO0cu-0003At-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 16:46:52 -0400 Received: from lnx1.holmesgrown.com ([68.99.198.226]) by fed1rmmtao04.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040512204605.YUQW6840.fed1rmmtao04.cox.net@lnx1.holmesgrown.com> for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 16:46:05 -0400 Received: from lnx3.holmesgrown.com ([192.168.1.5] ident=mail) by lnx1.holmesgrown.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1BO0c8-0004y0-Gv for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 12 May 2004 13:46:04 -0700 Received: from steve by lnx3.holmesgrown.com with local (Exim 4.20) id 1BO0cC-0000HO-JR for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 12 May 2004 13:46:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:46:08 -0700 From: Steve Holmes To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Message-ID: <20040512204558.GB1055@lnx3.holmesgrown.com> Mail-Followup-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: "Steve Holmes,,," Subject: Re: Effortless editing with Speakup X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:46:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Like what has been echoed already on this thread and what I've said in my private note to you, this old version of speakup is really going to hender you! The latest (CVS) versions of speakup solve the cursor tracking delema once and for - at least with most editors. Then it just gets down to the structure of editor you like. You mentioned previoud unix shell experience so then you can give Emacs, Vi, Pico/Nano, etc. a try and compare for your own comfort level. I personally use emacs for most all my editing needs but have come back to vim (VI improved) for another go around. it is quite powerful. I like vi 'cause it starts up much more quickly than emacs but does have a more complex mode environment as you might recall. Oh, you mentioned Elvis; Yeah, I believe it is the defacto standard vi editor for Slackware at least. Vi is symbolically linked to elvis by slackware basic defaults. if you go to install vim, you then can symlink that to vi instead. For basic use, elvis and vim are similar but I understand vim has much more power and more features. - -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAoo0GWSjv55S0LfERAp9TAJ9YriGOrNGMwIuSqflV/A24NKwbAgCg2e2J 6yywJePi/LNBhzJA9s/xq5Y= =mfIY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----