From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cantata.rednote.net ([66.92.170.86]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ArM52-0006gK-00 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:00:57 -0500 Received: from cantata.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i1CJ0qaH007768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:00:53 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id i1CJ0q3n007766 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:00:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 14:00:51 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20040212190051.GP710@rednote.net> References: <6D3A09C6CAB0D311BA5000902760D022040F1F8F@chpt0000se01.cherrypoint.usmc.mil> <20040212174312.GO710@rednote.net> <20040212181251.GA5131@linux1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040212181251.GA5131@linux1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: Re: Is ICMP important? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:00:57 -0000 I think you have a right to debug. That's not cracking. If someone has such a knee jerk reaction to that, you probably don't want to do business with them. William Hubbs writes: > From: "William Hubbs" > > Hi all, > > I wouldn't go running nmap blindly on another computer without the owner's permission. If you do and the owner complains to your isp you might get shut down for abuse -- they might think you are scanning the ports on the other machine to try to find a way to compromise it. > > I know this because a few years ago when I was running redhat linux (I think it was version 6 or so), someone got into my computer and did this and I was shut down. Fortunately the isp let me back on after I talked to them about what was going on. > > William > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:43:12PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > Also, Chuck, recognize that you can use nmap on any address. So, you can > > run: > > > > nmap -P0 [ip.address] > > > > and see what ports are and aren't open on any machine. Might be handy > > along with the traceroute results. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina@rednote.net Phone: +1 (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://a11y.org