From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cantata.rednote.net ([66.92.170.86]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AcRMn-0000GN-00 for ; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 10:37:37 -0500 Received: from cantata.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i02FbZDi027131 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:37:36 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id i02FbZhS027129; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:37:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:37:34 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: Glenn Ervin at Home , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20040102153734.GG25678@rednote.net> References: <20040102144805.GA25678@rednote.net> <010201c3d142$14bbbb00$6d00a8c0@desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <010201c3d142$14bbbb00$6d00a8c0@desktop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Cc: Subject: Re: are motorola phones accessible? X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 15:37:38 -0000 Hi, Glen: Your point is well taken. It's the reason I asked Karen to clarify her post, as she did. Rest assured that the difference between "talk to it," and "talks to me" has been very thoroughly vetted when we get with industry. It's unfortunate , but we do make the case. Glenn Ervin at Home writes: > From: "Glenn Ervin at Home" > > I do not consider products that we talk to, to be accessible, in of > themselves. > If the device, regardless of what it is, does not give us verbal or tactual > feedback, then it is not accessible. > Usually when it takes verbal input, it takes sighted assistance to set it > up. > I think that as far as being usable, the vast majority of devices can be > managed by touch, if there was the feedback to what we are controlling. > For some reason, the sighted think that our problems can be solved by > technology that allows one to talk to the device. > Glenn. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: are motorola phones accessible? > > > I want to clarify something in your post about your MOtorola phone. > > When you say it supports voice, do you mean: > > a.) It understands me when I talk to it? Or, do you mean, > > b.) It voices things that are on screen when I press buttons. > > > Karen Lewellen writes: > > From: Karen Lewellen > > > > Hi Chris, > > new tot he list, and saw this, so > > as I have just gotten a Motorola wanted to add my opinion. > > Granted this depends on what you desire as to accessibility. > > However, thus far my Motorola v60 g, which is for gsm service, something > > more commonly used over seas, is rather good. > > it includes voice programming allowing you to program in numbers and dial > > them via voice , tty if desired, and > > a lot of other bells. > > it is also a flip phone, which can help with connection issues. > > again, I do not know what you need, and all needs are different, but > > the line may be worth considering, as it is still rather new. > > Hope this helps, > > Karen L > > > > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > > > They're no better than the rest. I used to have an old > > > Motorola 630 (I believe) that wasn't bad with its shortcuts. I could > > > assign two digit numbers to entries in a phonebook and I thought that > > > part worked pretty good. It was an earlier modle that did not have as > > > many features as the current phones today. It was only a dual band > > > and my switch to Verizon's America's Choice plan required me to move > > > up to a tri-band modle. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 07:54:50PM -0500, cris wrote: > > > > What is the most accessible motorola cel phone? I heard much about > Nokia, > > > > but not much is said about motorola which is one of the largest > producers > > > > of cell phones for the international market. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Cris > > > -- > > > HolmesGrown Solutions > > > The best solutions for the best price! > > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > > Janina Sajka > Email: janina@rednote.net > Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Director, Technology Research and Development > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > http://www.afb.org > > Chair, Accessibility Work Group > Free Standards Group > http://accessibility.freestandards.org > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina@rednote.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://accessibility.freestandards.org