From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cantata.rednote.net ([66.92.170.86]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AZXYG-0004zN-00 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:37:28 -0500 Received: from cantata.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id hBPFbQLa019905 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:37:27 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id hBPFbQ9q019903; Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:37:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:37:26 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: Glenn Ervin at Home , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20031225153725.GB18873@rednote.net> References: <20031224095541.KVQF18777.mta13.adelphia.net@beavis> <01cf01c3caf9$bbc62ba0$6d00a8c0@desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01cf01c3caf9$bbc62ba0$6d00a8c0@desktop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Cc: Subject: Re: Talking bios X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:37:29 -0000 Your router undoubtedly lacks the software needed to function as a terminal. As always in computing, hardware isn't enough. Some software must make that hardware do the job intended. The terminal that did the job in the olden days was a teletypewriter, whence we get tty. You may have seen these in a museum. They had a typewriter keyboard and a big fat roll of paper. Somebody far away could make the machine type on that paper. And the person sitting at the machine could type and make thousands of similar devices type the same chars worldwide. This is how news was transmitted in the days before sattelites. And, for the sake of news, there were tty devices that just had the big fat rolls of paper and no keyboard for typing. They were, ahem, dumb terminals. So, to get back to your router, the serial port is for plugging a terminal in. It's not for using your router as a terminal, because it isn't equipped for that kind of thing. Glenn Ervin at Home writes: > From: "Glenn Ervin at Home" > > I have a terminal port on my router. It is a 9 pin serial. > Would this work with such a BIOS, or not? It seems to me that there would > be no way for the BIOS to see the router at that point. > Glenn. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jacob Schmude" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 3:55 AM > Subject: Re: Talking bios > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > Well, strikes me that if you own any kind of terminal capable of > communicating at 9600 baud you could take advantage of this sort of access. > This includes > second computers, laptops, other notetakers, and whatever else you may have. > Perhaps it won't benefit everybody, but IMHO, a little access sure as hell > beats > the access we have now., and I'd say access such as this, if it ever was > implemented on a PC bios, would be a damn good start to something long > overdue. > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:39:56 -0500, Allan Shaw wrote: > > > >... but that's not what you indicated. You indicated that you feel that by > >connecting a Braille"n Speak to your system which allows you to access the > >bios makes that bios perfectly accessible. that's only one option, what if > >you don't happen to own a braille'n speak? > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGP SDK 3.0 > > iQA/AwUBP+lipZXfgIVMPEIbEQJlcwCfT81FryU8tlEG93Xjt3lc4y1reLsAnifH > gGrQe1kg5RSHqJGzOdR2ZWKF > =lvQC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina@rednote.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://accessibility.freestandards.org