From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cantata.rednote.net ([66.92.170.86]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AZD9T-0003A9-00 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:32 -0500 Received: from cantata.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id hBOHoT0h024824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:29 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id hBOHoSUS024820 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 12:50:28 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20031224175028.GQ3259@rednote.net> References: <6.0.1.1.0.20031223100651.029b0eb0@pop1.sympatico.ca> <20031223164459.GB3259@rednote.net> <6.0.1.1.0.20031223115728.029c6eb0@pop1.sympatico.ca> <20031224005434.GD3259@rednote.net> <6.0.1.1.0.20031223213427.029cb200@pop1.sympatico.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.0.20031223213427.029cb200@pop1.sympatico.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: Re: Talking bios X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 17:50:32 -0000 You misunderstand me. The BNS was just particular to my circumstance. Digital Equipment Corporation certainly didn't design their bios for a particular device from a particular assistive technology vendor. Quite the opposite. They used a standard mechanism in the computer trade, called serial terminal, so that anyone with any kind of a terminal capable of serial communication could use whatever device it is they had. It just happens that my serial terminal device, that I happen to have, was a BNS. It could easily be anything else, as has already been pointed out. Allan Shaw writes: > From: Allan Shaw > > > ... but that's not what you indicated. You indicated that you feel that by > connecting a Braille"n Speak to your system which allows you to access the > bios makes that bios perfectly accessible. that's only one option, what if > you don't happen to own a braille'n speak? > > > At 19:54 12/23/03, you wrote: > >I should think the opposite is a bios you can't read without sight. > > > >Allan Shaw writes: > >> > >> > >> ... I wouldn't consider having to connect a Braille 'N Speak to your > >system > >> a system with a perfectly accessible bios, in fact the exact opposit!