From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cantata.rednote.net ([66.92.170.86]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AT2Fb-0008Lf-00 for ; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 11:59:19 -0500 Received: from cantata.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id hB7GxIx2007237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:59:18 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id hB7GxI7s007235 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:59:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 11:59:17 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20031207165917.GD2506@rednote.net> References: <3FD22D63.A7F974E3@the-bofh.com> <003d01c3bc2f$7fcaae60$0301a8c0@D> <20031207134840.GA2506@rednote.net> <009701c3bcc9$0bceb390$0301a8c0@D> <20031207140329.GC2506@rednote.net> <00a301c3bccb$69808840$0301a8c0@D> <6.0.1.1.1.20031207091513.01bc7508@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.1.1.1.20031207091513.01bc7508@127.0.0.1> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: Re: Apollo and fedora X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 16:59:19 -0000 You're clouding my advice here, and I think you're wrong to do so. So, let me cut to the chase ... What is the blkind person to do when firstboot launches? You are wrong when you say it's an X app, because you don't have recourse to Ctrl-Alt-F1, as you would if the full X login were launched. So, how does the blind person handle it? You've got a graphical screen, and no way to get out of it. Jacob Schmude writes: > From: Jacob Schmude > > Hi > Well, technically speaking, you don't have to do this, but it is a good > idea to do so. Firstboot is a first-time configuration tool that pops up > when you first boot your fedora system. However, this tool is entirely > x-based, so its value to us as blind users right now is marginal, at best. > I've not yet checked to see if, in fact, gnopernicus would provide us > access to this but I'm enclined to doubt it. If you don't disable this, > you're going to be pushing the enter key lots of times just to get to a > login prompt. > This does not, however, stop the system from coming up in X, to do that you > need to edit /etc/inittab and find the line saying: > id:5:initdefault > and change it to > id:3:initdefault > You can do this right after you've disabled firstboot. It would be nice if > they actually asked this during install, I mean, if you use the text mode > install then isn't there a possibility that you'd want text mode when you > rebooted? > HTH > At 09:07 12/7/2003, you wrote: > >I didn't have to do this the last time, what exactly is this doing? I > >assume its just changing the run level back to the command line? > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina@rednote.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://accessibility.freestandards.org