From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cantata.rednote.net ([66.92.170.86]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1AHsNe-0006tC-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:13:30 -0500 Received: from cantata.rednote.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id hA6MDRiM001833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:13:28 -0500 Received: (from janina@localhost) by cantata.rednote.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) id hA6MDRF9001831 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:13:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:13:26 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-ID: <20031106221326.GP17772@rednote.net> References: <6D3A09C6CAB0D311BA5000902760D022040F1ED3@chpt0000se01.cherrypoint.usmc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6D3A09C6CAB0D311BA5000902760D022040F1ED3@chpt0000se01.cherrypoint.usmc.mil> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Subject: Re: Mobile Accessibility X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.3 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:13:31 -0000 Cingular actually has a very capable blind woman as one of their accessibility officers. It's someone I know and respect. But, they're still not meeting Sec. 255. I don't think you'll find they have a phone, at least not wireless, that gives you caller ID, battery status, etc. Because they're moving to GSM, and already have significant GSM rollout in some areas, they certainly could adopt Mobile Accessibility but won't because it's a crash prone application. Well, I can't blame them for that. But, I do blame all the service providers for not requiring manufacturers to deliver phones with fully functional TTS. Worse still, I blame them for designing operating systems that support downloadable applications, without providing all the necessary support to provide functional TTS. Let me know if I can help. If you're considering your options, and would file a complaint if you feel you're not getting what youshould get, I will help. Whitley CTR Cecil H writes: > From: Whitley CTR Cecil H > > Hi Janina, > cingular has a disability page. The url is: > http://www.cingular.com/about/disability_resources > They've also got a support center with both voice and tty access numbers. > The above url will lead to the info. I don't know who at AFB is > responsible for the section 255 page, could you see they get this info? > I'll be talking with them later, in particular I want caller id, so we'll > see what they have to offer. Voice dialing (*8) is a nice feature though, > and goes to show that accessability for some can be extra features for > all. > > I'm currently having fun with Motorola trying to get the manual in > something other than pdf. They claim braille/large print/audio for all > and ascii for some phones. > > Thanks, > Cecil > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina@rednote.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://accessibility.freestandards.org