From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-086.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.86] helo=cantata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19C2KT-0007CQ-00 for ; Sat, 03 May 2003 15:05:49 -0400 Received: from janina by cantata.rednote.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19C2KS-0000B0-00 for ; Sat, 03 May 2003 15:05:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 15:05:47 -0400 From: Janina Sajka To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Unpopularity of Elba Message-ID: <20030503190547.GO30626@rednote.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: With the exception that some ftp implementations, especially on Win systems, are flawed, this is correct. ftp is ftp, whatever os is hosting it. Luke Davis writes: > From: Luke Davis > > Ann > > I have personally used Linux to access Windows FTP servers. It works > fine, contrary to your statements below. Most of the rest of your message > is correct, but when something talks FTP over TCP/IP, it talks FTP. > > Am I totally missing the boat here? > > Luke > > On Sat, 3 May 2003, Ann Parsons wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Actually Saqib, if you wanted to really understand the Elba and how it > > works on a network, think of it as a Linux box, then you will > > understand. A linux box, unless you are using Samba, can not exchange > > files with a Windows one using FTP. On the other hand, the Windows > > box can FTP to the Linux box with no trouble. Why, because the Linux > > box understands and can read communication From Windows to it. > > Windows, on the other hand, can not read communication via FTP from a > > Linux box. Windows doesn't recognize Linux at all! If, for example, > > you have a Linux and Windows computer, i.e. a dual boot system, you > > can mount the Windows partition/disk on the Linux side no trouble. > > You can come and go within the windows environment, see all the files, > > read them, and write to them, even. On the other hand, Windows is > > incapable of recognizing a linux partition. As far as Billy-Boy is > > concerned, his OS is egocentric and will remain so. That is why your > > Elba can not talk to your PC. It isn't that the Elba is illiterate or > > not bilingual, it's that your PC is! Your PC, unless it is a Linux > > box, is, as I have said, egocentric, monolingual, and parochial. It > > don't wanna talk to nobody who's different or who speaks funny or who > > dresses funny or who uses a slash instead of a backslash. I mean > > *really* that is the end of uncooth, according to the high society of > > Windowsdom. Actually, if it ain careful, it's going to trip over its > > feet if it keeps its nose in the air like that, Saqib! It's *not* the > > Elba's fault! > > > > On the other hand, iffin you want to talk to a Linux box with it, you > > can talk either direction. Both Linux boxes can talk to each other > > just peachy keen and wonderful > > > > Now I admit that five pounds is rather heavy, but shoot for the > > convenience... Only thing it lacks and not for long, is GPS. > > > > Ann P. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175