From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dsl092-170-086.wdc1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([66.92.170.86] helo=cantata.rednote.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18yheq-0001ib-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:23:44 -0500 Received: from janina by cantata.rednote.net with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18yheo-0004GB-00 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:23:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 19:23:41 -0500 From: Janina Sajka To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Speakup and phoebe Message-ID: <20030328002341.GE16225@rednote.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: Linux cantata 2.4.20 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Kirk has a point. I have heard Red Hat officials admit privately that their communications isn't always what it should be. Unfortunately, this kind of problem, when it occurs, isn't usually limited to the outside world. In other words, it's usuallyt as much of an issue inside the organization as with people outside the organization. Kirk Reiser writes: > From: Kirk Reiser > > Thomas Ward writes: > > > Hi, there wre several factors why speakup was pulled, but one of the > > factors as I understand it was speakup screwed up the French keymap. > > I also heard people had problems building the kernels from source, and Red > > Hat ended up deciding to pull it. I don't know the entire story on who, > > what, where, and why speakup was pulled, but I heard it was hotly debated. > > One of the things which struck me very funny about this whole > interaction was that although it was hotly debated, they never > actually bothered to write me about it until almost Christmas after > three months. I guess they are all so arrogant they figure everyone > reads their stupid mailing lists. > > Once they did contact me I fixed the problem within a day. Go > figure. So folks would rather bitch than communicate. > > Kirk > > -- > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175