From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from executioner.lis.net.au ([203.35.83.3]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pm8J-0000CI-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 11:33:32 -0400 Received: from uucp by executioner.lis.net.au with local-rmail (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pm8G-0004DZ-00 for ; Thu, 04 Jul 2002 01:33:28 +1000 Received: from kerry by joana.gotss.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17Pm2b-0003zc-00 for ; Wed, 03 Jul 2002 23:27:37 +0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:27:37 +0800 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Jaws under Linux? Message-ID: <20020703232737.A15342@joana.gotss.net> References: <15650.61691.263913.338662@akp@eznet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 11:54:28PM +1000 From: Kerry Hoath Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Yes vmware 3 under Linux can run jaws and eloquence direct X not required but I think it works. msaa surely works and if your machine is fast enough >1ghz with more than 256 megs ram and you have the money and sighted help jaws can run insise x but it is not trivial. Regards, Kerry. On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 11:54:28PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Ann Parsons wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > It is a good question if you don't understand that Linux is a totally > > different operating system from Windows. JFW is a Windows product. > > If JFW worked under Linux, we wouldn't have Speakup or Emacspeak. You > > can emulate the key map, but you're talking apples and oranges. I'm > > not a techie, so I don't know the technical reasons behind this, but > > the way the screen reader gets info from the screen and so on are > > different. I think even the way graphics is handled in Linux is > > different from the way in which it is handled in Windows. And this is > > not to mention the licensing problems that would blossom if JFW users > > started using Linux. They wouldn't want to do so. Why should someone > > pay $900 for a screen reader when both the operating system, Linux, > > plus its very workable screen reader Speakup, and/or the output system > > for Emacs, are free. Not only are they free, as in free beer, their > > source code is free as well. I wouldn't pay a red cent for JFW to > > run on Linux. I couldn't afford it, for one. I couldn't fix it if it > > broke, for another. I'd have to wait years before the programmers at > > Freedom Scientific got their act together to implement any new > > features or to fix bugs. Naw, the learning curve is not steep enough > > to warrant such a thing. > > Woe! slow down there ann. > What he's wondering is, will jfw work on something like vmware. > imho, I don't think so. > For starters, there's the issue of direct x. I don't think that direct x > is even handled at all in a windows emulator. I'll stand to be corrected > as always. > there's also the issue of msaa and whether or not it will work on > something like vmware. > I can see his point but I also see the other side of the coin having > started from scratch with linux. > but I take your point too. > why pay through the nose for a crappy piece of software that gets major > changes about once every whenever they can think of something they want to > add. > > > -- > Shaun Oliver > > > In a world whithout fences > and walls who needs Windows and Gates? > > EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au > ICQ: 76958435 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or kerry@gotss.spice.net.au ICQ: 8226547 msn: kerry@gotss.net Yahoo: kerryhoath@yahoo.com.au