From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dtmf.uark.edu ([130.184.144.116] ident=postfix) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XBZP-0004tq-00 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2002 20:35:52 -0500 Received: by dtmf.uark.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1963C75ABD; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:38:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 19:38:31 -0600 From: Chris Nestrud To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: mutt Message-ID: <20020203013831.GA28232@TheTestPattern.com> Mail-Followup-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca References: <006101c1ac14$9aa73fa0$6801030a@greatmachine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <006101c1ac14$9aa73fa0$6801030a@greatmachine> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: You can disable that menu with: unset help # get rid of line at top of screen The one thing I like most about mutt is its configurability. I can use folder-hooks to have different index formats for mailing lists and personal mail, which speeds up browsing through threads. The one thing that I'd like to do, but haven't found a way to do, is have a key that toggles between no headers and a set of headers. This would be doable if I could set variables within macros and query them later. I could just do this with two keys., one per macro Chris On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:08:22PM -0600, Chris Peterson wrote: > Well, all I can say is that, until today, I hadn't used pine for probably > five years. I also have never used mutt until today. > > So, lets just assume for the moment that I'm not an expert on either mailer, > which I'm not. On a blind friendlyness scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the > highest and 1 is the lowest, I'd put pine at about a 4 or 5. That is to say > that, it can be used, but it really is designed to be more graphical than we > need it to be and, while you can configure some stuff to make it better, the > defaults make it a little difficult. > > Mutt, on the other hand, has a brief menu of commands at the top of each > screen. They don't pack enough in there to make it hard to understand; and, > my only regret was that I couldn't figure out how to turn that menu off. > The only reason I'd want to do that, by the way, is because I have to listen > to that menu at the beginning of any message. Of course, there is probably > something that can be done to make that better, but I'm not an expert. > > Never-the-less, it was a joy to operate in the first five minutes or so, > which pine definetly was not. > > I'm not sure what version my isp is running, but I'll have to go and grab > the source code some time and have a look through it. > > Also, by default, the cursor tracks the bar in mutt, at least that is the > way my isp had it set up. Having not tried it on my own machine, I don't > know. > > Anyway, for what its worth, I think its cool. > > 73, > Chris Peterson, KG0BP > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janina Sajka" > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:49 AM > Subject: Re: mutt > > > > Well, the big difference, arguably, is the license. Mutt is GPL. > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just got through with playing with mutt for the first time. I love > it! > > > It seems so much better than pine. Can anyone point out the differences > > > between pine and mutt? Anyone use elm? I used that for years and loved > it. > > > I think I'd like mutt better, though. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup