From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from dial0-426.dialin.uic.edu ([128.248.172.243] helo=linserver.complex) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XCE6-0006Rn-00 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2002 21:17:54 -0500 Received: (from gnowak1@localhost) by linserver.complex (8.11.4/8.10.2) id g132H1S00545 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:17:01 -0600 Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:16:26 -0600 From: Gregory Nowak To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: mutt Message-ID: <20020202201626.A541@uic.edu> References: <006101c1ac14$9aa73fa0$6801030a@greatmachine> <5.1.0.14.2.20020202151315.02508df0@198.144.194.210> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020202151315.02508df0@198.144.194.210>; from CCrawford@ACB.org on Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:13:30PM -0500 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Mutt should come with your distribution. If not, you can get at least the source from: http://freshmeat.net . Just search for "mutt" on that sight. Greg On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:13:30PM -0500, Charles Crawford wrote: > Where did you get Mutt from? > > -- charlie.At 12:08 PM 02/02/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >Well, all I can say is that, until today, I hadn't used pine for probably > >five years. I also have never used mutt until today. > > > >So, lets just assume for the moment that I'm not an expert on either mailer, > >which I'm not. On a blind friendlyness scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the > >highest and 1 is the lowest, I'd put pine at about a 4 or 5. That is to say > >that, it can be used, but it really is designed to be more graphical than we > >need it to be and, while you can configure some stuff to make it better, the > >defaults make it a little difficult. > > > >Mutt, on the other hand, has a brief menu of commands at the top of each > >screen. They don't pack enough in there to make it hard to understand; and, > >my only regret was that I couldn't figure out how to turn that menu off. > >The only reason I'd want to do that, by the way, is because I have to listen > >to that menu at the beginning of any message. Of course, there is probably > >something that can be done to make that better, but I'm not an expert. > > > >Never-the-less, it was a joy to operate in the first five minutes or so, > >which pine definetly was not. > > > >I'm not sure what version my isp is running, but I'll have to go and grab > >the source code some time and have a look through it. > > > >Also, by default, the cursor tracks the bar in mutt, at least that is the > >way my isp had it set up. Having not tried it on my own machine, I don't > >know. > > > >Anyway, for what its worth, I think its cool. > > > >73, > >Chris Peterson, KG0BP > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Janina Sajka" > >To: > >Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:49 AM > >Subject: Re: mutt > > > > > > > Well, the big difference, arguably, is the license. Mutt is GPL. > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I just got through with playing with mutt for the first time. I love > >it! > > > > It seems so much better than pine. Can anyone point out the differences > > > > between pine and mutt? Anyone use elm? I used that for years and loved > >it. > > > > I think I'd like mutt better, though. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > > Technology Research and Development > > > Governmental Relations Group > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup