From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from cc2328961-a.hntsvlle1.al.home.com ([24.37.175.2] helo=potpal ident=mail) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16U9Vb-0005yx-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:47:23 -0500 Received: from kennyhitt by potpal with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16U9ff-00008i-00 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:57:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 10:57:47 -0600 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: (off-topic) ADA Message-ID: <20020125165747.GC314@potpal> References: <009701c1a4dc$c40e0ca0$728d3244@cp286066a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i From: Kenny Hitt Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi. The readers are vollunteers. They were provided through the Alabama school for the blind. Since the school for the blind thinks it was a good idea, I just started finding other solutions. OCR software, paying bills with phone calls and a debit card,and (most important for me) switching to Linux so I could use the computer without help are examples of my solutions. Kenny On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 01:05:52PM -0500, Amanda Lee wrote: > Yeah, I'm really shaking my head over this one. Are you mistakenly using > a person as a Personal Care Attendant or something? Perhaps Alabama > provides these services and to justify that a blind person needs a reader, > this is to classify them as Personal Care Attendants. I wish that reader > services could be such a service albeit it is not as much of a service > which is as custodial as a person needs who is unable to perform normal > life tasks such as bathing, dressing and so forth. In some respects, it > actually might not be a bad idea that hired readers are pre-qualified > because hey! they generally writeout checks and have direct access to > documents which contain personal and confidential information. > This is way way off topic of course. If you are denied what you need > though, I would contact your State's Equal Opportunity Bureau, Division or > Department whatever it is called. Ask about how to file complaints > regarding rights of persons with disabilities. > Did you also ask to speak to a supervisor about this? It's amazing how > case workers can be horribly mis-informed as well and perhaps the > information needs to be provided proactively to whomever gave you this > seemingly bogus information. > > If Alabama truly is denying services which you are entitled to, if there > is no State Legislation which covers this, then your next step is to do > exactly as Dave P indicates as this is a very blatant and discriminatory > policy. > > Amanda Lee > > > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > > > it is discriminatory and inflamatory. it is just like some maneuvers I > > have seen to keep the little guy from opperating in the braille > > production business. I don't think there is a place for this kind of > > thinking in the ada and if you took it to the d o j, I don't think it > > would stand up. If you are being denied a service you are being denied > > a service and that is that. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kenny Hitt" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 8:38 AM > > Subject: Re: (off-topic) ADA > > > > > > Hi. I talked to them when it passed. > > They did it "to protect me from bad people." Nfb, ACB, and the > > state school for the blind aren't interested in doing anything about it > > so I just live with it. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 09:45:43AM -0600, Kirk Wood wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Kenny Hitt wrote: > > > > Hi. In Alabama, readers are required to pass a background check. > > > > Also, they have to pay for the background check. Because of this, I > > > > haven't had help in several years. > > > > > > So let me see if I understand this correctly. In Alabama a person is > > > supposed to pay a fee (guessing in the area of $50) so that they can > > help > > > a blind person out making maybe $7.00 an hour? That is a nice barier > > to > > > having to pay the minimal rates they do. Readers never get > > compensation > > > that is worthy. I think you should speak with your state legislator > > about > > > why he wants to deny you services. Then get as many other people you > > can > > > to call asking the same question. > > > > > > ======= > > > Kirk Wood > > > Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net > > > > > > Nowlan's Theory: > > > He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from > > > the next freeway exit. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup