From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [204.233.198.50] (helo=linserver.complex) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16QDFx-0005WP-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 14:58:57 -0500 Received: (from gnowak1@localhost) by linserver.complex (8.11.4/8.10.2) id g0EJwUw00445 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:58:30 -0600 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:58:30 -0600 From: Gregory Nowak To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: anti-word Message-ID: <20020114135830.B414@uic.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from shauno@goanna.net.au on Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 09:00:12PM +1100 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Shaun, how do we change the defacto file format then from ms-word to something else? Start a "drop ms-word" campign maybe? Of course, such a thing would require finances as well. Greg On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 09:00:12PM +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote: > > > > > Yes and if a word document is sent to you for your input and editing, I'm > > > sure the original party would expect the thing to come back in Word format > > > along with the built-in formatting, styles and such. Some of this whole > > > anti Word sounds arogant to me. > > > > > > I rather think it arrogant to presume everyone wants and reads Word. I > > regard it as arrogant to presume we all pay tribute to Microsoft. I > > further regard it arrogant to treat a proprietary, non-consensus, file > > format as some kind of standard. > > > Well, like it or not, this is the standard we need to either abide by or > change. Right at the moment all I'm seeing is a whole lot of bitching > about ms word and such. > to revisit Kirk w's post a few days ago, we need to take into account that > microsoft word is the enforced some would say prefered word processor that > is widely used in the workplace today. > We need to be mindful of this when we decide not to give a fuck about > formatting and presentation. > I've had it pointed out to me in no uncertain terms that this is the way > things are. > so let's just stop fucking around with bitching and either do something > about it or fucking well live with it!! > I don't like microsoft any more than alot of you do but like it or not, > it's here and we have to deal with it. > if microsoft on the other hand were to get things right in the first place > and not be so kind as to stoop to exploitative and scare tactics etc, we > probably wouldn't even be having this discussion. > I'm sorry for my use of colourful metafores but that's just how ai see the > whole thing. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > Shaun Oliver > > Marriage is a three ring circus: > engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering. > -- Roger Price > > Email: shauno@goanna.net.au > Icq: 76958435 > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup