From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [204.233.198.50] (helo=linserver.complex) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 16PTJ4-0001mh-00 for ; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:55:06 -0500 Received: (from gnowak1@localhost) by linserver.complex (8.11.4/8.10.2) id g0CIseC00466 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:54:40 -0600 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:54:40 -0600 From: Gregory Nowak To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: speakup howto, was: Re: suggestions for Speakup Message-ID: <20020112125440.C446@uic.edu> References: <20020112103723.A320@uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from janina@afb.net on Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 01:36:53PM -0500 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.7 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: So will this new joint howto be a rewriting and incorperation of Saqib's original howto, or a totally new document? Greg On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 01:36:53PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > Excellent questions, Gregory. IBM's Accessibility on Linux page, which is > at: > > > http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/projects/access/ > > says "The IBM Linux Accessibility Team contributes to the open-source > community's accessibility efforts in order to help > accelerate Linux." > > This is, of course, an incomplete statement which makes no sense on its > own. What do they mean "accelerate linux?" I suspect they don't mean "make > it run faster," for example. I'm sure there's a word missing in that > sentence, but I diagress ... > > This page goes on to say: > > "November 15, 2001 > Saqib Shaikh, author of several Speakup documents, agreed to coauthor > new Speakup HOWTO with Jennifer Jobst." > > Since I see no link, I assume they're not offering up any drafts just yet, > but I certainly expect they'll do so before finalizing their document. I > know Jennifer posted a draft of her emacspeak documentation on the > emacspeak list, so I suspect she's lurking here, and will do the same for > us. And, of course, Saqib is active on this list, so perhaps he'd like to > share about this? I do recall he offered us his own, quite excellent > speakup HOWTO last spring. Are there other speakup docs you've written, > Saqib? That one is the only one I'm aware of to date. > > Now, let me speculate on the real reason IBM is up to all those wonderful > efforts they proudly list at the url provided above: > > I believe IBM wants to make money selling computers to the U.S. > Government. I believe they want the option to sell systems without > Microsoft applications, and Microsoft operating systems. Recent news > stories have explained about contracts from IBM to Redhat for ports of the > Redhat distribution of open source linux for a range of IBM servers, and > even IBM's S390 mainframe. > > To me, these facts point to the intention to be Sec.508 compliant in > systems proposals for U.S. Federal procurments. And, I say, "Amen, and > more power to them." > > > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > IBM is authoring a howto about speakup? Where can I find a copy to look at? > > And uhhhm, why are they doing it? > > Greg > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:28:21AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > > > Stick to the straight and > > > > narrow and make sure each feature under consideration really > > > > belongs in a screen reader. Examples: the cut and paste feature > > > > really did belong; the reinitialization feature really does not. > > > > > > > Strongly agree, but with a suggested twist. > > > > > > The reinitialization feature should go into the HOWTO that Saqib and IBM > > > are authoring about speakup. It's a valuable tip that even novice users > > > can set up for themselves, and learn a little linux in the process. And, > > > they'll end up with a feature they are likely to find useful, and that > > > they wouldn't come upon very quickly on their own. > > > > > > Saqib, Jennifer, are you listening?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup