Re: Another newbie

[Jack Daniels <Labitup@home.com>]

Tom, no USB, but I use a similar network setup, the serial connection is so
I can hear all the messages when it boots. 

Jack
Jack
At 08:43 PM 11/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
>i'm sorry to hear that you won't be able to add a cdrom, but fortunately
>there are many other options here.
>Option 1: you may considder some external drive system. I don't know if you
>have a usb port or not, but external hard drives are a great way to backup
>and install files to your Linux box.
>If built into the kernel a external USB or Parallel Zip drive is another
>great tool.
>Lastly, you could buy a small network kit from someone like Linksys, and set
>up your computer to share files and drives.
>I baught such a kit myself, and am happy with it. For $60 I got a Linksys
>hub, two cables, and two Linksys PCI nics.
>However, this may or may not be an option for you depending on how skilled
>you are with networking computers. Although, I found this to be a great
>option, and great way to share files.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Daniels" <Labitup@home.com>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 10:39 AM
>Subject: Re: Another newbie
>
>
>> Thanks Tom. Unfortunately, no way to add a CDROM to this machine.  It's a
>> very small computer, (2.5X11.5X8.5) it has built-in everything, and room
>> for only a hard disk and a floppy.  I picked it up for $25 a while ago,
>and
>> thought it would make a neat Linux box.  Perhaps a parallel CD drive will
>> become a possibility for me down the road.
>>
>> I already have the Speakup files on the system and will just go ahead and
>> begin reading the kernal info and start that learning curve now. If I run
>> into problems, I know where to come for help.
>>
>> Jack
>> At 11:32 PM 11/22/01 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Hi, my comments are below inside your message.I have tried to answer all
>> >your questions as clearly as I can. I hope this helps.
>> >See below.
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Jack Daniels" <Labitup@home.com>
>> >To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> >Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:30 AM
>> >Subject: Another newbie
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi, I am new to Speakup, and I have been following the list for just a
>> >> short while now.  I want to learn whether the following is possible,
>and
>> >> how to best accomplish it.
>> >
>> >That's great. I'll see what we can do for you.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> First, some info about my Linux box.  I have a very small PC installed
>> >with
>> >> Redhat 7.1, kernal 2.4.2-12 running on a P133 with no CDROM.
>> >> A friend set it up for me and I am currently using a serial connection
>> >from
>> >> My Win98 PC.
>> >>
>> >> What I want to be able to do is to insert a floppy with Speakup and any
>> >> necessary boot files and have Linux  come up talking.  Is this
>possible?
>> >> If so, what do I need to get/do?
>> >
>> >Yes, it is possible, but someone would have to compile you a talking boot
>> >disk image  of Speakup, for your kernel and send it too you.
>> >Another suggestion is to get Emacspeak rpm, put it on a floppy, and
>install
>> >it to your box. At least you would  have speech natively on your Linux
>box
>> >until you were able to build a Speakup kernel for your machine.
>> >
>> >> I want to use a DEC Express on COM2, keeping the serial connection on
>> >COM1.
>> >>
>> >
>> >This is totally possible. Speakup [probes for your synths ports, and
>almost
>> >always finds the synth on ttys0 and ttys1. which are com1 and com2 under
>> >dos.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> If this is possible, and I thought it was from reading the list for
>just a
>> >> short time, what files do I need?
>> >> How do I use them?
>> >> Any info out there detailing this process?
>> >>
>> >
>> >Unfortunately, I don't know of any specific documents that exactly gives
>you
>> >a step by step howto on what to do, but most of us are old hands, or at
>> >least know something about what we are doing.
>> >Read the kernel howto, and the readme documentation in your kernel source
>> >directory.
>> >You basically, will need a clean kernel source tree, and the speakup
>source.
>> >Also make sure you have kernel headers installed, compilers installed,
>and
>> >are able to build kernels.
>> >
>> >> I am sure there is info I have left out, so please ask any questions,
>and
>> >I
>> >> will answer them to the best of my ability.  Rememberr, I am new, never
>> >> built a kernal, the more detailed your response, the better.
>> >
>> >Ok, is it possible that you can get a cd rom drive for your computer?
>Bill
>> >has Red Hat 7.2 cd's that come with Speakup built in. All you do is
>install
>> >the cd's, restart, and wam you have speech.
>> >I've been where you are now. Looking at a stock distribution, and
>wondering
>> >how to get it to talk. Here is how I learned to do it if it is a stock
>> >distribution and not a Speakup modified distribution.
>> >
>> >I downloaded Emacspeak current version, and loaded my Dectalk Express.
>Then,
>> >I accessed the shell by doing alt+x, and typed shell.
>> >Once I had a talking shell, I then installed the Speakup source from
>floppy,
>> >and put in the Linux cd, and installed the kernel source. Then, built a
>> >talking kernel.
>> >Since you don't have a cd rom drive you may have to substitute by first
>> >configuring wvdial, and then while in Emacs with Emacspeak do an alt+x
>and
>> >type term.
>> >This puts Emacs in a terminal  mode, and you can run wvdial & to get your
>> >internet connection.
>> >Then, you can run the Linux ftp program to ftp files from the
>ftp.kernel.org
>> >site to your box.
>> >
>> >So here is the summary. While it is possible to do what you want it does
>> >require some compiling, configuring,  and large learning curves. However,
>> >once you do it a couple of times it won't seam so huge.
>> >However, if you want a quick and simple solution see if you can get
>Bill's
>> >modified Red Hat 7.2 disks from the Speakup ftp site, and install that.
>That
>> >way you get speech out of the box, and can consentrate on learning the os
>> >without plunging head-long into advanced compiling, configuring, and all
>> >that.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thank you in advance for helping another newbie get up and talking with
>> >> Speakup!
>> >>
>> >> Jack
>> >>
>> >>
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