From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from tnt13a-118.focal-chi.corecomm.net ([216.214.206.118] helo=linserver.megsinet.net ident=root) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15jSaH-0007xW-00 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:39:24 -0400 Received: (from romualt@localhost) by linserver.megsinet.net (8.11.4/8.10.2) id f8ILYgD00327 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:34:42 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:34:01 -0500 From: Gregory Nowak To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Intellectual Property Legislation Proposed Message-ID: <20010918163401.A315@linserver.megsinet.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from shauno@goanna.net.au on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:49:04PM +1000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: How exactly would this spy routine in the kernel make sure that no one other then the registered user is using their worthless windows xp? Greg On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 08:49:04PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote: > rodney, I'm incline to agree with you. > I've forwarded some of this to my nearest and dearest for their oppinions > on this matter. > I live in australia which means nothing at this point but it's pretty safe > to say, that if this legislation goes ahead, I'm forced to wonder how long > it would be before something similar is preposed over here as well. > and as for suggestions that microsoft may have had a hand or at least a > vested interest in this legislation, > I'd have to agree with this also. basicly, it's more than likely common > knowledge by now that microsoft are going to have some sort of spy > software imbedded in the kernel of their windows xp operating system. > as far as I can assertain, this is to insure that noone is using the > software ilegally. > this piece of legislation is seeking to do the very thing that microsoft > have been trying to do for years. > > > Shaun.. > > Cat, n.: > Lapwarmer with built-in buzzer. > > Email: shauno@goanna.net.au > > On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Rodney Clowdus wrote: > > > I have to say Kirk that this is the correct place to discuss this as this > > very list could be in danger of not being here anymore in the future due > > to the nature of open source software not meeting the requirements of the > > proposed bill that is before congress as we discuss these matters. I love > > this list and to here the many wonderful things folks are doing with > > speakup. It's all about freedom of the speech for the blind and all > > people of the world. Richard Stallman is asking us all to write our > > representative about this. Richard is very concerned and see's that this > > is the greatest threat yet against the GNU foundation and all what it > > stands for. I know for a fact that the government is in the very act of > > making it illegal to use software that's written by what they negatively > > call hackers. All my favorite software and my way of communicating is in > > danger. The big corporations are trying to think of every means possible > > to shut down the GNU movement which promotes free software for the good of > > the blind community as well as the good for all communities. I hope we > > win this one. Power to the speakup list and may she speak forever! > > > > The Weaving Beaver > > rclowdus@kcnet.com > > "Chop your own firewood and it will warm you twice." > > "Weave your own cloth and it will reward you twice." > > > > On 17 Sep 2001, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > > > Well, I feel I need to say something on this topic. This should be a > > > subject which is near and dear to blind peoples hearts, access to > > > information. > > > > > > If any of these laws pass I am afraid that all access will become more > > > difficult. Your rights to even complain about the problem could get > > > curtailed based on what media you use to object. > > > > > > In general I believe that all intellectual property laws should be > > > systematically torn-down. If this does not happen I suspect we will > > > lose our freedom of speech as we are about to do with our privacy. > > > The national security agencies are in Washington today requesting more > > > relaxed laws on law enforcement groups for invading our privacy. It > > > is sad that a national disaster such as the events over the past week, > > > will play right into the hands of organizations wishing to become your > > > big brother. > > > > > > This is not the forum for this type of discussion, however, I often > > > wonder how many people actually understand what is being done to the > > > rights they worked so hard for, sometimes with their lives. > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > > > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > > > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup