From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from tnt15b-246.focal-chi.corecomm.net ([216.214.210.246] helo=linserver.megsinet.net ident=root) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15Z0Ir-0006kN-00 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:26:30 -0400 Received: (from romualt@localhost) by linserver.megsinet.net (8.11.4/8.10.2) id f7L1N5e00353 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:23:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:22:32 -0500 From: Gregory Nowak To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: No text editing??? Message-ID: <20010820202232.A350@linserver.megsinet.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from showell@lrxms.net on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:59:53PM -0400 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Amen, I will agree with what Scott has said 101%. Greg On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 08:59:53PM -0400, Scott Howell wrote: > > Ay, I have to say that the only problem Speakup has ever has is it doesn't > type for me thus it doesn't fix all the spelling errors. Seriously though, > I find Speakup to be one incredible piece of work. Its made such a > difference in my life. Not to sound hokie or anything, but Speakup and > Linux have really brought my interest in computers far beyond my wildest > dreams. Trapped inmicroslop hell limited me to what I could do and > learn. SOme may argue, but I can assure you that there's little windows > has ever offered and certainly has never made any task as simple as Linux > and Speakup. Kirk and those who have contributed to the development of > Speakup deserve a big thank you. I take every opportunity to tell folks > about Speakup and the wonderful things the folks involved have done. > > > > > --- > Scott > > On 20 Aug 2001, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > Let me give a tad of clarification for the new and prospective speakup > > users. Speakup allows you to have full editing capabilities, at least > > as full as any text based application under gnu/Linux. > > > > I use emacs with speakup with absolutely no difficulty and am using it > > currently to write this note. I do not use emacspeak although I under > > stand it is a fine product. > > > > Now where some folks are complaining about speakups lack is in > > automatic cursor speaking. Speakup tracks the cursor perfectly and is > > pretty well always where your cursor is. What speakup does not do is > > automatically speak the line you are moving to. It does not > > automatically say the characters you are moving onto. It does track > > the cursor though. There is an experimental mode of cursor speaking > > in the cvs version of speakup which in some applications works as well > > as any screen review package. In other applications it doesn't work > > so well. > > > > I am only saying these things because it creates a false impression > > that somehow speakup is inferior and it just plain isn't. I would be > > very happy to have folks help with fixing this situation of automatic > > speaking. It is not a trivial problem to do correctly. It is also > > not that high on my priority list because I have no problem writing, > > coding, reading and editing with it the way it currently works. > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup