From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pony.its.uwo.ca ([129.100.2.63]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.31 #1 (Debian)) id 15YyXf-0001Up-00 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:33:11 -0400 Received: from linserver.megsinet.net (tnt17a-75.focal-chi.corecomm.net [208.40.16.75]) by pony.its.uwo.ca (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f7KMU6i22573 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from romualt@localhost) by linserver.megsinet.net (8.11.4/8.10.2) id f7KMOxJ00467 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:24:59 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:24:23 -0500 From: Gregory Nowak To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: No text editing??? Message-ID: <20010820172423.C414@linserver.megsinet.net> References: <003501c129a7$4bca9750$d5015112@mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <003501c129a7$4bca9750$d5015112@mit.edu>; from rjc@MIT.EDU on Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:38:24PM -0400 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: All of what you describe could be done with speakup screen review keys on the numpad. Greg On Mon, Aug 20, 2001 at 02:38:24PM -0400, Rich Caloggero wrote: > The one question I have, not being a speakup user myself, is how easy is it > to ask it to read the line or word that I'm on. For example, if I use the > arrow keys or whatever to read the screen in emacs under speakup and find a > place where I want to make a change. My cursor is in the correct place, but > I just want to hear some context now. Can I ask speakup to just read the > line the cursor is on, or even read the sentence or paragraph which contains > the cursor? I believe this is very different, and seems like an easier > problem to the one of automatically figuring out and then reading an item > after the cursor has been moved. > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk Reiser" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: No text editing??? > > > > Let me give a tad of clarification for the new and prospective speakup > > users. Speakup allows you to have full editing capabilities, at least > > as full as any text based application under gnu/Linux. > > > > I use emacs with speakup with absolutely no difficulty and am using it > > currently to write this note. I do not use emacspeak although I under > > stand it is a fine product. > > > > Now where some folks are complaining about speakups lack is in > > automatic cursor speaking. Speakup tracks the cursor perfectly and is > > pretty well always where your cursor is. What speakup does not do is > > automatically speak the line you are moving to. It does not > > automatically say the characters you are moving onto. It does track > > the cursor though. There is an experimental mode of cursor speaking > > in the cvs version of speakup which in some applications works as well > > as any screen review package. In other applications it doesn't work > > so well. > > > > I am only saying these things because it creates a false impression > > that somehow speakup is inferior and it just plain isn't. I would be > > very happy to have folks help with fixing this situation of automatic > > speaking. It is not a trivial problem to do correctly. It is also > > not that high on my priority list because I have no problem writing, > > coding, reading and editing with it the way it currently works. > > > > Kirk > > > > -- > > > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > > phone: (519) 661-3061 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup