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References: <8F6D9D72964E4D2E90262B7DB242EE9D@mdlynn> <5191FF80.1030802@baechler.net> <51933C1C.9070201@baechler.net> <72708A629D1C40508DEB3147F83238DA@mdlynn> <51939D80.3050903@baechler.net> <18019.1368635999@ccs.covici.com> <00CE93B930F145C99EDFFDA2407E2ACC@mdlynn> <22596.1368664945@ccs.covici.com> Subject: RE: Slack 13.37 and 14.0 Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 20:38:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1FE7DAD9E5CD4A86A60DA427B9B3C72F@mdlynn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-Vipre-Scanned: 033F162D00457A033F177A-TDI In-Reply-To: <22596.1368664945@ccs.covici.com> Thread-Index: Ac5Rzqj0brxjGk4YQ3u2zjqzgR/AswABqWgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 01:32:39 -0000 The shops I visited had systems built with those boards, and we checked CMOS to see if they were listed there as well as in manuals. They also looked at the board, and nothing indicated there were serial connections at all. It's something I will keep in mind in the future. Usually buy my stuff online; looks like I will again have to face those odious PDF files. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of covici@ccs.covici.com Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 7:42 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Slack 13.37 and 14.0 Did you look at the specs to see if they had the headers -- what they seem to be doing these days is have the headers without a cable or bracket, so you have to bring it out to a slot on the back of the unit. Mitchell D. Lynn wrote: > I don't know about "most mainboards," but none of those I have looked > at in the flesh over the past 12-months or so have had any serial > connections at all. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of > covici@ccs.covici.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 11:40 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Slack 13.37 and 14.0 > > Most motherboards have the serial headers, just not brought out to the back. > > Tony Baechler wrote: > > > No, you're still not understanding. Debian Wheezy has the 3.2 > > kernel, so no serial support. That's why I suggested installing > > Squeeze and upgrading to Wheezy. That way you can run the 2.6.32 > > kernel with newer packages and still have serial support. No, you > > won't get most boot messages with software speech because it takes a > > while for sound drivers to load. I have both kernels installed here > > so I can get hardware speech if my system becomes unbootable. I had > > no problem finding a motherboard with a serial port last August. > > You have to look for server motherboards, but they're not that hard to find. > > > > On 5/15/2013 7:15 AM, Mitchell D. Lynn wrote: > > > Thanks for the info on the 3.2 kernels. That, then, is the issue. > > > > > > RE Debian: Looks like there has been a new release since I last > > > looked. Grabbed the Wheezy release and installed on a test system > > > last night. Software synth works fine on that machine. No serial > > > port on this system to test with DEC. I will see how it does on > > > the main server later this week when I can have it down for an > > > extended period. I can live with a software synth as long as I can > > > get boot messages, and serial ports are getting harder to find on > > > modern > mainboards. > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > covici@ccs.covici.com > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? 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