From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wlym.com (wlym.com [208.79.16.96]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C816C109A3 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (pool-96-247-198-37.clppva.fios.verizon.net [96.247.198.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by wlym.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n3DLiK6W003410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:44:21 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n3DLiHsS010433 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:44:20 -0400 Received: (from covici@localhost) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.2/8.13.7/Submit) id n3DLiHf6010432; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:44:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18915.45617.500577.132483@ccs.covici.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:44:17 -0400 From: John covici To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Which hardware synthesizer to buy? In-Reply-To: <20090413211309.GA20121@linux1> References: <20090410212552.GA15942@clearwire.net> <20090413182256.GA24586@localhost.localdomain> <20090413211309.GA20121@linux1> X-Mailer: VM ?bug? under Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: covici@ccs.covici.com, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:44:23 -0000 Could not you have an option to accept that change of numbering, and let the user decide whether he wants that sort of thing? I thought there were other issues involved. Since I always built the kernels the same I got used to the numbering and let it go -- or what I was thinging of was to have theearly boot work as before and do a switcheru once the serial driver came up so the speakup port would get its number again. Does that make any sense? on Monday 04/13/2009 William Hubbs(w.d.hubbs@gmail.com) wrote > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:22:56AM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 08:47:51AM -0400, Kirk Reiser wrote: > > > Even with a hardware synth we have nowhere near a power-up to shutdown > > > solution like we used to have. > > > > I must say I was surprised when I read that. I've been using speakup > > since the 0.09 days, and haven't noticed any less bootup, or shutdown > > messages than before. I will admit though that I don't follow bootup > > and shutdown messages from start to finish, unless I have a specific > > reason to do so. As far as I know, having speakup and my synth driver > > built into the kernel, still gives me speech from what sounds like > > early on in the boot process, until the machine powers off, just like > > it always used to, or so it has seemed to me up until now. So, what > > have I overlooked, and am not aware of? > > Greg, > > you are correct about having speakup and the synth driver built in > giving you speech early in the boot process. However, it is not as > early as it was with the older kernels, and I personally do not know of > a way that we will be able to come up that early at this point. > > We made this change because of a bug that would cause the serial ports > that speakup was not using to be numbered incorrectly, for example, if > your synthesizer was on ttyS0 and you started speakup built in, ttyS1 > would be renumbered to ttyS0, but it would not be renumbered if you did > not start speakup or if it was not built in. This was caused because > speakup was being started before the kernel's serial driver. > > For newer kernels (I believe 2.6.26 or later when the accessibility > drivers first appeared), we are installing as an accessibility driver if > you build speakup into the kernel, and we are starting late enough that > this is not an issue. > > Let me know if that makes sense. > > William > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com