From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.49]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19zotv-0004wS-00 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:52:11 -0400 Received: from akp.selfhost.com (roc-66-67-58-28.rochester.rr.com [66.67.58.28]) by ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with SMTP id h8I2oNuC003560 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18889 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Sep 2003 02:50:26 -0000 From: Ann Parsons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16233.7538.218047.27527@akp@eznet.net> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:50:26 -0400 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: I'm sorry, but I'm desperet In-Reply-To: <003e01c37d7b$61fbb0c0$6500a8c0@merlin> References: <000d01c37c99$ab393740$0100007f@carolina.rr.com> <20030917214244.GA7290@romuald.net.eu.org> <000901c37c9e$4e67ac40$0100007f@carolina.rr.com> <003e01c37d7b$61fbb0c0$6500a8c0@merlin> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, The question about whether someone had read the manual can, in some cases, become a match that sets off an explosion. If Chris has been reading the manual, and something isn't clear that is preventing the Alsa drivers from compiling properly, then he needs help to interpret what he has read. Sometimes reading the manual compounds the problem. I think that Chris would be better served if his questions were answered rather than inquiring as to his competency in reading man pages. "Have you read the manual?", is a easy, quick and dirty solution to someone's problem. I know that it is important to understand documentation, but sometimes one needs to talk to a human, not a manual. Sounds like Chris has been struggling with alsa for a long time. I can't help, don't know enough. However, I do know that configuring Alsa can be complicated and frustrating. Let's not get a bad rep like the Emacspeak list, guys. Somebody, please give this guy a hand. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT