From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from syr-24-92-226-169.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.169] helo=mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 183LyB-0000cP-00 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:42:39 -0400 Received: from akp.selfhost.com (roc-66-24-104-177.rochester.rr.com [66.24.104.177]) by mailout5-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/RoadRunner 1.20) with SMTP id g9KJgXp26840 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13469 invoked by uid 1000); 20 Oct 2002 19:45:35 -0000 From: Ann Parsons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15795.2015.64159.393179@akp@eznet.net> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 15:45:35 -0400 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: word processor wanted In-Reply-To: <003f01c27843$6741c260$0100a8c0@stargate> References: <20021020052610.16381.10424.Mailman@speech.braille.uwo.ca> <003f01c27843$6741c260$0100a8c0@stargate> X-Mailer: VM 7.03 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, Although you are right, Thomas, I think that you do Emacs a disservice. You call it a text editor. That is truly what it is, but like the definitions of most words, it is misleading. >>From your description, one might think that all the attributes of word processing are missing like changing fonts, underlining, and placement of text. these are all available in Emacs. Emacs, *is* a text editor, but because of that it is fertile ground for any number of mark-up codes, mark-up codes that will, unlike a WYSIWYG editor, give you total and complete control over the text you are editing. Emacs, unlike MSWord, makes the user tell it what to do, exactly what to do. If the mark-up tags aren't in the text, your commands aren't there, and aren't being acted upon. This is a truly excellent word processing technique for a blind person because if you use one of the markup languages, TROF or Grof Or LaTeX, or real HTML (not the trash that Billy-Boy thinks is HTML), you can actually tell by looking at the rough draft, just where those tags are, and just how much text will be underlined or bolded or whatever. No, if you simply dismiss Emacs as a "text editor", that's like under estimating a homosapian. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT