From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 0670B1EF6B1; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0200.smtp25.com (mail0200.smtp25.com [174.37.170.200]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F059C1EF56F for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (s-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.91.90]) by s-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r6V6g1pg010601 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:02 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6V6g1iA015579; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:01 -0400 To: pj@pjb.com.au, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: vibe, a line-editor with vi-compatible keystrokes In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to pj@pjb.com.au message dated "Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:05:04 +1000." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:01 -0400 Message-ID: <15578.1375252921@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: s-out-001.smtp25.com-r6V6g1pg010601 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.2 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:42:08 -0000 I don't thinkex or vim -e uses the cursor at all, or even ncurses. I have used both vim and ex successfully with speakup -- you just have to silence the window where it reads out the position. pj@pjb.com.au wrote: > Devon Stewart wrote: > > Does vim have a line-editor mode? > > It depends what you mean; there is, like I say, > vim -c 'set lines=2' > but it's still a curses app, so it still speaks voluminous garbage > and takes over the whole screen so you can't use a screen-reader > to see what's been happening. Might as well use vim. > I don't think vim has any non-curses modes. > These days ex is usually a symlink to vim -e which is still > a curses app; anyway, then you should be using edbrowse. > > Janina Sajka wrote: > > Hmmm, but one can do this all in vim already. > > Oh yes, vibe is only ever going to be a small subset of vim. > But vim speaks lots of garbage, and takes over the whole screen etc. > > I'm still fixing lots of vibe bugs within one version number, > I'll become more disciplined later... > http://www.pjb.com.au/blin/free/vibe > > Peter > > http://www.pjb.com.au pj@pjb.com.au (03) 6278 9410 > "Follow the charge, not the particle." -- Richard Feynman > from The Theory of Positrons, Physical Review, 1949 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com