From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailout5-1.nyroc.rr.com ([24.92.226.169] helo=mailout5.nyroc.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16lDoA-0007MG-00 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:49:06 -0500 Received: from akp.selfhost.com (roc-24-161-76-26.rochester.rr.com [24.161.76.26]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with SMTP id g2DIn1M25097 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16380 invoked by uid 1000); 13 Mar 2002 18:52:52 -0000 From: Ann Parsons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15503.40963.908991.924172@akp.selfhost.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:52:51 -0500 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster In-Reply-To: <004f01c1cab0$9c8b8a50$28b362d1@greatmachine> References: <004f01c1cab0$9c8b8a50$28b362d1@greatmachine> X-Mailer: VM 7.01 under Emacs 20.7.2 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I did that very thing, Mr. Petersen, and I believe that we may be getting somewhere. If my complaints are too loud for you, I'm sorry. You see, I happen to believe strongly that no matter what one does to aid persons with disabilities, the primary directive should be Universal Access. This means that when you start a project, you build it so that it is accessible to all from the get-go, not a project that needs to be retro-fitted. Retro-fitting has been the way of making materials, buildings, transportation and everything else accessible. It's time it stopped, frankly, stopped now! We have to think in terms of *all* users, not just the fortunate few, all users, that includes every single person who might want to access whatever the heck it is. If I am disappointed in something, I say so. I believe that Bookshare is making an effort to remedy the problem, and having the discussion on here is right because it involves access to something via Linux. What better place to find programmers for Linux than on a Linux list? What better place to find programmers for making something accessible than on a list devoted to accessibility of the Linux system to persons who are blind? Ann P. P.S., It may interest you to know that I thought Janina was writing to me privately last night. That's how come I was so frank in my post. Seems my mail blooper started a whopping discussion, though. So, I have continued it. A.P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT