From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 4B5851EF6EA; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0131.smtp25.com (mail0131.smtp25.com [75.126.84.131]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A18F1EF6DE for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (d-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.158.174] (may be forged)) by d-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s99Epkff030422 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:51:46 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.9/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s99EpjV6014722 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:51:45 -0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup In-reply-to: <87h9zd2u16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <21407.1412799969@ccs.covici.com> <20141009021859.GA27091@gregn.net> <543696F6.7090109@math.wisc.edu> <87h9zd2u16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> Comments: In-reply-to Chris Brannon message dated "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:32:21 -0700." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:51:45 -0400 Message-ID: <14721.1412866305@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: d-out-001.smtp25.com-s99Epkff030422 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:51:52 -0000 What I have done in those cases is to hook up another computer with a null modem cable and use the terminal program in that computer to read the output where I wuld say console=0 on the command line to redirect the output. However, speakup built in catches a lot. Chris Brannon wrote: > "John G. Heim" writes: > > > Here at the University of Wisconsin, there > > are a lot of linux systems admin jobs. And for the majority of them, > > it would be a big problem if you couldn't access the boot messages. > > Is the serial console support not appropriate / acceptable? > When I first started out with Linux, I had a Braille 'n Speak, and I > used it as a dumb terminal. If I started the serial console at boot, I > got to see all of the boot messages from the kernel, regardless of > whether I had Speakup. It's not really a good way to work, when > compared to Speakup, but for tasks such as diagnosing boot failures, it > was usable. > If I worked professionally as an on-site sysadmin, I might try to > do something similar today. The BNS isn't manufactured any more, but > I'm sure there's something that would work as well. > > -- Chris > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com