From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 493ED1EF7BC; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail0131.smtp25.com (mail0131.smtp25.com [75.126.84.131]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7542C1EF7AF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccs.covici.com (s-out-001.smtp25.com [67.228.91.90]) by d-out-001.smtp25.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id s98NKSKF014124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:20:29 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.14.9/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s98NKRuV013117 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:20:27 -0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup In-reply-to: <87oatm40zz.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <5435AE9F.1090306@math.wisc.edu> <87oatm40zz.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> Comments: In-reply-to Chris Brannon message dated "Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:04:16 -0700." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 19:20:27 -0400 Message-ID: <13116.1412810427@ccs.covici.com> From: covici@ccs.covici.com X-SpamH-OriginatingIP: 70.109.53.110 X-SpamH-Filter: d-out-001.smtp25.com-s98NKSKF014124 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 23:20:37 -0000 I use an initramfs, and I have speakup built in, but indeed, I do get messages pretty early, certainly before the real root is alive -- things are fine as long as the kernel boots up, if that were not to happen, then I would be sunk without something in the kernel itwself. Chris Brannon wrote: > "John G. Heim" writes: > > > Yeah, if you're a linux sysadmin, hardware speech is not some luxury > > you can do without. > > Well, if the Linux console moves into user space, this doesn't have mean the > end of hardware speech. > Perhaps the way forward is through initramfs? As a proof of concept, I > built one that had the Speakup modules, audio libraries, and espeakup. > I had *software* speech running from the initramfs. > It was a bit difficult to build it, because I had to figure out all of > the dependencies and add them. But it worked. > Now, if you're just doing hardware speech, things are going to be much > less complicated, and it should definitely be possible to have it long > before the root partition is mounted, even if the Linux console code > ends up migrating to userspace. > > -- Chris > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici@ccs.covici.com