From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I1pXR-0005lN-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:15:25 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([151.197.119.170]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JK200HI908Z0SC6@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:15:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:14:51 -0400 From: Cody Hurst Subject: Re: dectalk or double talk advice In-reply-to: <20070622194733.GA30841@localhost.localdomain> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Message-id: <1182543291.7974.8.camel@ubuntu1> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <1182496319.12506.12.camel@ubuntu1> <000b01c7b49e$31cd2970$6c01a8c0@tdsportable> <20070622194733.GA30841@localhost.localdomain> X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:15:25 -0000 Hi Greg, Thanks for filling me in on Slackware. I will first look into the double talk lt. I kind of figured serial would have to be my obvious choice, however I jsut wanted to make sure. These systems are older (not ancient) but bottom linie they more than likely have a few serials on them. As far as the software part goes, are there any other alternatives to speakup, so at least I can have a taste of a few if I should ever need another one. It is just kind of up to me to I guess you could say "fend for myself" on this course since the school really doesn't know what is best for me and never has had a visually impaired person in their networking course. I wish things woud work out of the box but we know about that. Thanks, Cody On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 12:47 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > First, the operating systems mentioned were suse linux, and > netware. There was no mention of windows, thus I don't see how the > reference to jaws fits in, unless it was to explain how jaws gets its > data, which is besides the point. > > Also, the reference to usb being the better choice was > inappropriate, since speakup currently doesn't support usb synths, as has > been mentioned here frequently, especially in recent threads. Having > said that, if you're going to rely on speakup, you will want to be > sure that all the work stations you're going to use have at least 1 > rs232 serial port. If they don't, then you're in trouble if you > expect to use speakup. > > Also, be aware that suse doesn't include speakup in their > distribution, and I'm not aware of any existing suse kernels with > speakup patched into them. You mentioned also not being sure about the > accessibility of slackware. Actually, slackware was the first > distribution to include a speakup-patched kernel in the official > slackware media. > > As for which synth to choose, I think the 2 biggest factors in that > decision are the speech, and the price of each. The doubletalk lt is > cheaper than the dectalk usb, which does also have a serial port as > far as I know. As for the speech, I personally prefer that of the > doubletalk, but that's probably because I've used a doubletalk far > more than I have used a dectalk, and others may disagree here as > well. Speech is a very qualitative subject, and there is no synth that > fits every person's taste perfectly. As an aside, you wouldn't have > been able to use a doubletalk pc anyway, because they aren't being produced > anymore, and because it is very hard these days to find a pc with an > isa slot. Hth. > > Greg > > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 12:23:06AM -0700, Littlefield, tyler wrote: > > First, you're not going to get speech support without a program. > > The screen reader puts hooks in the kernel, or catches the video in the case > > of jaws, and translates. > > Next, I'd recommend USB, because, if you start using newer systems, most > > don't have a serial port. > > Third, the accessibility of slackware is fine, unless you insist on running > > under gnome, x, or something else, then you're really not getting the > > benafit of linux. > > HTH, > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGfCdV7s9z/XlyUyARAhQoAKC2pAxtaBHQFbcRxJ7X3YAKxDtHqwCg1nOM > uSZ2tei1eRwXa/lpYrCpqgg= > =UAdR > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup