From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([144.92.166.194]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I3bG9-00013j-00 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:24:53 -0400 Received: from ulam.math.wisc.edu (ulam.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.245]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C529743FB for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:23:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vv507j (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ulam.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C9D2BD9B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:23:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <098001c7b8df$c4f0c640$4ba65c90@vv507j> From: "John Heim" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:24:53 -0000 Well, I'm not sure of exactly what I said that you disagree with. Maybe you can clarify that? I think you're reading more into my comments then was actually there. From: "Scott Berry" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Software speech opinions > Right John, > > I agree but have to disagree too. I have started helping for the first > time > a site that I run software for my router off of. It is called > www.xwrt.org > they make a web interface for Wrt project which can be found at > http://www.openwrt.org. But working for instance with a wiki is a bit of > a > trick. That seems to be about how 90% (percent) of the open source docs > are > kept. Now as for speakup, I do not use Speakup I do all admin chores > remotely through a Windows computer which works fine for me. So as for > Speakup I don't use it but like to keep current on it. I don't know how > to > program in Linux at all. I don't expect Kirk to do everything either but > it > is very good to voice. That might just be how the Speakup gets changed at > some point. I myself would like to see Speakup in the kernel and user > space > we would have the best of both world. > > TTFN, > > Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Heim" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: Software speech opinions > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:03 PM >> Subject: Re: Software speech opinions >> >> >>>> I would ask people spouting off in this thread to ask themselves what >>>> *they* >>>> have contributed. It seems to me that a lot of people are making >>>> suggestions >>>> for what other people should do or sell. >>>> >>>> Say the best thing to do is to move speakup into user space. How is >>>> that >>>> going to get done? I guess we're all going to volunteer Kirk to do it. >>>> Eh? >>> >>> You seem to be saying that the mere users should keep their traps shut >> >> I never said anything of the sort. >> >>>. In real life, a good majority of the people who use computers will >>>know >>>little or nothing about how to fix the problems that arise. Do you >>>really >>>propose that these people, such as my wife, have no business complaining >>>or >>>suggesting because they're not ultranerds? >> >> Well, sort of, yeah. Pointing out problems is one thing. Complaining is >> another. And telling other people what they should do to solve your >> problems >> is yet another thing entirely. >> >> But anyway, my main point was to suggest that people ask themselves what >> they've contributed to the open source community. Even if you're not a >> coder, you can write documentation, maintain a web site, etc. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 >> 10:07 AM >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >