From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([144.92.166.194]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I3FdL-00042i-00 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:19:23 -0400 Received: from ulam.math.wisc.edu (ulam.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.245]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE35F743D4 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vv507j (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ulam.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A2F2BDA7 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:18:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <06af01c7b81e$30ae08b0$4ba65c90@vv507j> From: "John Heim" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20070625031627.GC32366@localhost.localdomain><013701c7b7a0$5b1dd2c0$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop><20070626042409.GA25331@cm.nu><026001c7b7ac$7a18ebe0$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop><047301c7b809$9b0d3920$4ba65c90@vv507j> <002d01c7b813$f27baf70$6405a8c0@ALBERTLC7SN0ZA> Subject: Re: Software speech opinions Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:17:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-UWMath-MailScanner: amavisd-new at math.wisc.edu X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:19:23 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: Software speech opinions >> I would ask people spouting off in this thread to ask themselves what >> *they* >> have contributed. It seems to me that a lot of people are making >> suggestions >> for what other people should do or sell. >> >> Say the best thing to do is to move speakup into user space. How is that >> going to get done? I guess we're all going to volunteer Kirk to do it. >> Eh? > > You seem to be saying that the mere users should keep their traps shut I never said anything of the sort. >. In real life, a good majority of the people who use computers will know >little or nothing about how to fix the problems that arise. Do you really >propose that these people, such as my wife, have no business complaining or >suggesting because they're not ultranerds? Well, sort of, yeah. Pointing out problems is one thing. Complaining is another. And telling other people what they should do to solve your problems is yet another thing entirely. But anyway, my main point was to suggest that people ask themselves what they've contributed to the open source community. Even if you're not a coder, you can write documentation, maintain a web site, etc.