From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([144.92.166.194]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1IBFIg-0005Ob-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:35:06 -0400 Received: from ulam.math.wisc.edu (ulam.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.245]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62E6D748D4 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vv507j (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ulam.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5C02BD9B for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <049801c7c969$391c3f10$4ba65c90@vv507j> From: "John Heim" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" References: <000001c7c95a$668880d0$0302a8c0@forestfern> Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:26:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-UWMath-MailScanner: amavisd-new at math.wisc.edu X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:35:06 -0000 Why in the world are you posting this to the speakup list? Take it to private email. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina Joyce" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: RE: Using software synths with orca > Hi > > > So, maybe I should care a bit more for personal feelings over > principles? Certainly, that's a reasonable view, and I think it's what > you're saying to me. I don't know that I agree, but I will consider it. > GJ: Yes, I guess so. > > > PS: Do you really think someone completely new to Linux would write > anything so categorical to the list? Isn't it far more likely from > someone with history and standing in the community who's likely to > confuse what they know with what they think they know? I have been > guilty of this. I'm working on it. I hope to get better, but I suspect > I'll always be working on it no matter how good my skill gets. > > GJ: I do really think that new users are just as likely to be clumsy with > their language. Especially, when it's across boarders. I'm increasingly > finding it difficult to understand some of the Americanisms for example. > You used privately, "headsup", I also heard it on Chess Griffin's Linux > Reality pod cast. I'd never heard that one before but by guessing I hope > my understanding is correct. > > You'll also made the comment that I'd been using Fedora for a few days, > while this is so untrue, the point is your suggesting that someone who has > little experience shouldn't communicate. > > Anyway, let's both continue to support the operating system to the best of > our abilities, as that's what we're here for. > > Hey pass us that glass of Moonshine > > Cheers > > Gena > > Janina > > Georgina Joyce writes: >> Hi >> >> You know I've been around the block a few times. My concern is how >> welcome new users will feel about asking their questions. If they get a >> flaming like that they'll look else where. >> >> My personal feeling is that you should have expressed yourself as you did >> if that's how you felt, but privately and I could have corrected my error >> publicly. Come on! Your far more skilled in public relations than I am. >> >> We both want people to use Linux, isn't that what it's all about? >> >> Regards >> >> Gena >> >> Amateur Call: M 0 E B P >> >> VOIP / IM: gena1959uk >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:17 AM >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca >> >> >> I meant nothing personal, I assure you. Yes, I have a short fuse on >> anything approaching categorical statements whenever someone is new in >> a particular domain. Sorry if I offended. I certainly didn't intend >> that. >> >> Janina >> >> >> Georgina Joyce writes: >> > Hi >> > >> > My apologies, I didn't expand upon my expression. Because if I'd added >> > "by default" I'd be perfectly correct. >> > >> > I dislike your tone and your approach upon this matter. Whereas, I've >> > been privately supportive, but no more! >> > >> > Gena >> > >> > Amateur Call: M 0 E B P >> > >> > VOIP / IM: gena1959uk >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:58 PM >> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> > Subject: Re: Using software synths with orca >> > >> > >> > Georgina Joyce writes: >> > > It appears that Fedora doesn't include espeak >> > >> > >> > Not true. Did you even try to do: >> > >> > yum install espeak? >> > >> > Or yum info espeak? >> > >> > Please don't spread "does" and "doesn't" around with only a few days >> > experience. Too much misinformation is spread this way. >> > >> > Janina >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >