From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from trueband.net ([216.163.120.10]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I3gnR-0007Fg-00 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:19:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 26343 invoked by uid 1006); 27 Jun 2007 23:19:36 -0000 Received: from sberry@northlc.com by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 2.024701 secs); 27 Jun 2007 23:19:36 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.3) by -v with SMTP; 27 Jun 2007 23:19:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 27539 invoked from network); 27 Jun 2007 23:19:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO yellobow) (67.54.156.70) by -v with SMTP; 27 Jun 2007 23:19:31 -0000 Message-ID: <03e001c7b911$98cf3f10$c701a8c0@yellobow> From: "Scott Berry" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20070625031627.GC32366@localhost.localdomain><013701c7b7a0$5b1dd2c0$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop><20070626042409.GA25331@cm.nu><026001c7b7ac$7a18ebe0$b100a8c0@AveratecLaptop><047301c7b809$9b0d3920$4ba65c90@vv507j><002d01c7b813$f27baf70$6405a8c0@ALBERTLC7SN0ZA><06af01c7b81e$30ae08b0$4ba65c90@vv507j><005601c7b84f$5bea08e0$c701a8c0@yellobow> <098001c7b8df$c4f0c640$4ba65c90@vv507j> Subject: Re: Software speech opinions Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:19:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:19:37 -0000 That's very possible John. I apologize for doing this. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heim" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Software speech opinions > Well, I'm not sure of exactly what I said that you disagree with. Maybe > you > can clarify that? I think you're reading more into my comments then was > actually there. > > > From: "Scott Berry" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: Software speech opinions > > >> Right John, >> >> I agree but have to disagree too. I have started helping for the first >> time >> a site that I run software for my router off of. It is called >> www.xwrt.org >> they make a web interface for Wrt project which can be found at >> http://www.openwrt.org. But working for instance with a wiki is a bit of >> a >> trick. That seems to be about how 90% (percent) of the open source docs >> are >> kept. Now as for speakup, I do not use Speakup I do all admin chores >> remotely through a Windows computer which works fine for me. So as for >> Speakup I don't use it but like to keep current on it. I don't know how >> to >> program in Linux at all. I don't expect Kirk to do everything either but >> it >> is very good to voice. That might just be how the Speakup gets changed >> at >> some point. I myself would like to see Speakup in the kernel and user >> space >> we would have the best of both world. >> >> TTFN, >> >> Scott >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Heim" >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 1:17 PM >> Subject: Re: Software speech opinions >> >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Albert E. Sten-Clanton" >>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 12:03 PM >>> Subject: Re: Software speech opinions >>> >>> >>>>> I would ask people spouting off in this thread to ask themselves what >>>>> *they* >>>>> have contributed. It seems to me that a lot of people are making >>>>> suggestions >>>>> for what other people should do or sell. >>>>> >>>>> Say the best thing to do is to move speakup into user space. How is >>>>> that >>>>> going to get done? I guess we're all going to volunteer Kirk to do it. >>>>> Eh? >>>> >>>> You seem to be saying that the mere users should keep their traps shut >>> >>> I never said anything of the sort. >>> >>>>. In real life, a good majority of the people who use computers will >>>>know >>>>little or nothing about how to fix the problems that arise. Do you >>>>really >>>>propose that these people, such as my wife, have no business complaining >>>>or >>>>suggesting because they're not ultranerds? >>> >>> Well, sort of, yeah. Pointing out problems is one thing. Complaining is >>> another. And telling other people what they should do to solve your >>> problems >>> is yet another thing entirely. >>> >>> But anyway, my main point was to suggest that people ask themselves what >>> they've contributed to the open source community. Even if you're not a >>> coder, you can write documentation, maintain a web site, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 >>> 10:07 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.9/870 - Release Date: 6/26/2007 > 10:07 AM > >