From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 66-197-196-101.hostnoc.net ([66.197.196.101] helo=www5.stonewebs.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I07jJ-0002BY-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:16:37 -0400 Received: from 75-120-43-104.dyn.centurytel.net ([75.120.43.104] helo=[192.168.2.102]) by www5.stonewebs.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I07jQ-0002ij-9y for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:16:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: <00a601c7b15b$9749b980$ab00a8c0@tenstac> References: <20070617200022.GA16786@linux1><1182118939.3634.15.camel@layla.Mshome> <74411A17-AC9D-4C60-BB01-9695456D3126@softcon.com> <00a601c7b15b$9749b980$ab00a8c0@tenstac> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <03BC5C96-1E28-4336-B323-8C3FC6ED1BEE@softcon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Travis Siegel Subject: Re: gentoo dropping speakup support Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:16:32 -0500 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: books@softcon.com, msiegel@softcon.com, support@windowbridge.ws, tsiegel, tsiegel@softcon.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www5.stonewebs.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - braille.uwo.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - softcon.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:16:37 -0000 Doug. Your suggestion of having a small installation on the machine is a good one, and it probably would work. However, this assumes you already know what the problem is that needs fixed. Without having access to the actual boot messages (not just the ones you see while booting into your sandbox as it were) you'll never be able to solve any major problems that crop up in regards to the main system. it is however, not a bad idea, since it would allow some degree of free usage w/o sighted assistance on simple fixes. it wouldn't address the main issue though. And, in any case, it's functionally equivalent to the original suggestion of using a live cd to boot and work on fixing the issues from there.