From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.184]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I7aDv-0002qv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:07:03 -0400 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w1so446750mue for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr6207669bue.1183914422167; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Parham ( [82.99.202.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id y2sm52537901mug.2007.07.08.10.07.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jul 2007 10:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <036c01c7c182$5b669ff0$ccca6352@Parham> From: "Parham" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20070708011035.GA4018@localhost.localdomain><002001c7c137$522580a0$ccca6352@Parham> <20070708170412.GB6601@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:36:38 +0330 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:07:04 -0000 Yes Greg, it made perfect sense. Thank you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 11:33:30AM +0330, Parham wrote: >> And also another question. What if Orca doesn't support an application? >> Can I get the CLI-based one and try it with Orca then? > > If orca doesn't support a gui application, and there is a cli > alternative, then you can get that, and try running it in a xterm. I > haven't played much with orca support in xterm windows, so I don't > know how well that compares to running with speakup in a text console, > out of the gui. Some on here have said orca does well in xterm > windows, others have said that it doesn't do as well as speakup does, > so I don't know. > >> And you have put me in doubts that either CLI is the same as GNOME >> terminal. > > Mikel explained this well in one of his posts. Pretend you're using a > win95/win98/winme system. In a dosbox (a command-line window running > in the gui), you are running dos software, but are doing it in a gui, > this is like running a xterm window inside of the gnu/linux gui. Now, > If you went to the shutdown dialogue in our windows system, and chose > "restart the computer in ms-dos mode", You'd be in pure dos, without > the gui, and this is like the gnu/linux text console. Orca is > therefore a gui screen reader that can read xterm windows for you the > equivalent of the dosbox, along with reading the gui. Speakup is a > screen reader for the text console, that will work only in the text > console, the equivalent of using a screen reader in ms-dos mode in our > windows example. I hope that makes sense between the explanation Mikel > gave, and the one I just gave above. > > Greg > > > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGkRkM7s9z/XlyUyARAiwPAJ9+VdNqGlVQv3tM9Q4BWQN1uQaJHwCfeBJ/ > xdmUZEIatuCqoIK3wVV6zNM= > =1Vct > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup