From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.100] helo=ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CoNxQ-0008Ck-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:29:20 -0500 Received: from geekspeak (clt74-98-208.carolina.rr.com [24.74.98.208]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j0BFTHKj004700 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:29:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <036c01c4f7f2$59f48580$6601a8c0@geekspeak> From: "Laura Eaves" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20050110174910.GA445@romuald.net.eu.org> <01c601c4f7a1$30a6ce50$6601a8c0@geekspeak> <20050111151112.GU790@rednote.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:29:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: An Accessible Adobe Reader for Linux X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:29:20 -0000 Hi -- thanks for the link -- I'll take a look -- but as for MSAA, the library implementation is proprietary to Microsoft, but the interface is not -- in fact the library is available for use in any windows app, whether developed on linux or whatever. In fact I have heard firefox is using it for its windows implementation. I guess what I was wondering is if the same or at least similar object library interface might be appropriate for use cross platform. Of course the underlying implementation would be different, but the information passed to a screen reader -- say to recognize text boxes and navigate controls on a GUI -- would be enough the same that the MSAA interface could be used. But now that I think of it, Microsoft I hear is going another direction with respect to accessibility, so that MSAA may become obsolete for windows in a a year or two. Ah the joys of competition... Perhaps they are thinking of grabbing business away from the screen reader companies??? they deny it but if they are removing MSAA I assume there is a reason. Take care. --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: An Accessible Adobe Reader for Linux To learn about the "hooks," as you call them, consult the developer pages at: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gap/ Laura Eaves writes: > Well, on windows, acrobat7 is actually the release that makes pdf > accessible -- if you have jaws6 that is. but it is interesting that a > similar update is being created for linux. > I'm not familiar with gnopernicus, but does anyone know what hooks are > used > there to make an app accessible? on windows it is MSAA. > Or is the interface the same as MSAA? Definitely not MSAA. After all, that's Microsoft's proprietary property, right? Not open source nor a free license at all. > Just curious. > --le _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup