From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from home.rdsnet.ro ([193.231.236.40] helo=relay1.home.ro) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 179dkd-0000wP-00 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 23:22:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 14936 invoked from network); 20 May 2002 03:22:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (213.233.73.189) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 20 May 2002 03:22:25 -0000 Message-ID: <035b01c1ffad$b5c6e320$bd49e9d5@microsoft.com> From: "Octavian Rasnita" To: References: <022501c1feeb$d38960d0$7b4de9d5@microsoft.com> <20020519001220.C14423@romualt.dhs.org> <20020519175958.D1615@joana.gotss.net> Subject: Re: interesting experiment. Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 05:28:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Most of Windows users don't have a network but only a single computer, or at most 2. If there is a network, there is a system administrator. I am not a software engineer. I am licenced in Management, and I've worked only in Sales and marketing. But I want to be able to use an operating system that a lot of people say that is the best. Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Hoath" To: Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. The MAC address is required to diagnose certain network related problems such as bad switches, faulty dhcp implementations from certain vendors, network jabbers, broadcast storms, packet tracing and a host of other uses. Watching your network for arp trafic with tcpdump can tell you if your windows box has come up onto the network and if the NIC is working. Knowing which machine you are looking for on a multi-pc network means knowing the mac address especially if there is an ip address conflict. Compound your problems by having a corrupted dhcp lease database under NT or 2 machines set to the same ip 1 dhcp 1 not, and you'd like to know which machine is where. MAC addresses are unique, and many organizations use the MAC address to track where their computers (or the network cards in said computers) are. Tracking a MAC address can tell you which segment on a switch a machine is on, and on complicated setups you can dump the MAC table to debug 802.1 bridging problems. It is conceivable that on your home network you have personally never neded to know the MAC address of your windows box, and that is fare enough. I have debugged network problems in seconds with knowledge, a few MAC addresses and a packet sniffer that have baffled others for weeks. Maybe I am becoming disalusioned, but it seems so many people these days have no desire to know how things work, I mean really work. If you understand how things work, it is far easier to fix problems. My underlying knowledge of ethernet makes solving most networking problems a snap. Regards, Kerry. On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 12:12:20AM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Ok, why would one need to know their nic's mac address under windows 9x? > I've never had to, and I used windblows extensively for a good while. > Greg > > > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 12:49:52AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > -- Kerry Hoath: kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or kerry@gotss.spice.net.au ICQ: 8226547 msn: kerry@gotss.net Yahoo: kerryhoath@yahoo.com.au _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup