From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from home.rdsnet.ro ([193.231.236.40] helo=relay1.home.ro) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17AMaC-0002Ff-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:14:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 23215 invoked from network); 22 May 2002 03:14:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (213.233.73.175) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 22 May 2002 03:14:37 -0000 Message-ID: <02ba01c2013e$f85d7630$af49e9d5@microsoft.com> From: "Octavian Rasnita" To: References: <00b301c20114$f21f33a0$fa0a9718@nt.charterne.com> Subject: Re: interesting experiment. Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 05:32:14 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Maybe the DecTalk external, or maybe the DecTalk PC2 internal, but I have the old PC1 internal that sounds very bad. Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Snow" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:14 AM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. I think the decktalk hardware synth sounds fine, but you have to admit, the decktalk access32 software for winblows sounds just a bit constipated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > Octavian: > > Are you aware how inconsistant you are? Do you realize how > discouraging that is to someone who might want to help you out > and give you advice? Do you realize that it means you won't be > taken seriously? > > If you hate the sound of the old DEC Talk when you use it with > emacspeak, why would you like it were you able to use it with > Speakup? It would still have the same sound and all those noises > you were complaining about two days ago. > > Are you serious about Linux, or are you just here to cause > trouble? You act like you're not serious. > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > No, you're right. > > I don't use speakup though I would like to. > > I've read on speakup web page that there is working in progress for making > > the Dec Talk PC 1 card accessible for speakup and I've subscribed hoping > > that I will find out if there is support or not. Or if there it will ever > > be. > > > > > > Teddy, > > orasnita@home.ro > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory Nowak" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:25 AM > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > We're all assuming he's using speakup since he's here. But from all of > > Tedy's comments in other posts, I am beginning to get the impression that > > he's not, since he seems to be asking for screen readers which support > > software tts. > > Greg > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:58:09PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote: > > > Try man < emacs|less then use the speakup keys to read line by line, or > > > word by word if you wish. you can bring up the next page by hitting the > > > space bar. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > > > > > Please enlighten me. > > > > I never used the Jaws cursor in the new HTML help format under Windows. > > > > Select an item in the tree view, press enter, then press F6 and it will > > > > automaticly start reading that help item. It is a simple HTML file > > there, > > > > and it works exactly as simple as Internet Explorer. > > > > You don't need the Jaws cursor at all. > > > > > > > > You needed the Jaws cursor only for some bad designed help files in the > > old > > > > .hlp format. > > > > Now in the new .chm format, you don't have any problems. > > > > > > > > But this doesn't matter too much. Please tell me how to navigate the man > > > > pages. > > > > I type man mv, for example. > > > > It starts to print all the help file, but maybe I want to move with a > > page > > > > up then down, etc. > > > > > > > > I know this is possible. Thanks. > > > > Teddy, > > > > orasnita@home.ro > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Shaun Oliver" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:05 AM > > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > SNIP > > > > > > You open a window, and it explains you what you should do there. > > > > > > You have to press the space bar to check some checkboxes, to press > > some > > > > > > buttons, etc, and if you don't know something, press shift+f10 (or > > the > > > > right > > > > > > mouse button and choose "what's this?" or press F1 to view the help > > file > > > > > > wich is much much more easier to navigate than the man pages under > > > > Linux. > > > > SNIP > > > > > > > > A fake. > > > > man pages under GNU/Linux are a lot easier to navigate than windows help > > > > pages. > > > > you need to route the jaws cursor to the pc and then fart around trying > > to > > > > find what you were looking for. > > > > even with the new features in jfw I seriously doubt you could navigate a > > > > help file easier than a man page.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > http://www.openebook.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup