From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from home.rdsnet.ro ([193.231.236.40] helo=relay1.home.ro) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17AMa4-0002Ex-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:14:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 23144 invoked from network); 22 May 2002 03:14:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (213.233.73.175) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 22 May 2002 03:14:30 -0000 Message-ID: <02b601c2013e$f44fdd30$af49e9d5@microsoft.com> From: "Octavian Rasnita" To: References: Subject: Re: Get Out Of Jail Free! Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 05:23:43 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: See? That's why there aren't too many Linux users. You think all new Linux users know at least Unix. BTW. Do you know a mailing list for Linux blind beginners? I don't think that there is such a thing, because nobody wants to learn the beginners in Linux world. That's why Windows has such a big success. Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Barnes" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Get Out Of Jail Free! Hanina: I'm wondering, will the next question be, where's the pull down menu, the file menu and all that. I'm laughing, . Ed On Tue, 21 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote: > Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:04:09 -0400 (EDT) > From: Janina Sajka > Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > Subject: Re: Get Out Of Jail Free! > > Nothing happens if you press just Ctrl or just Alt. What makes > you think it would? Nobody said that. > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > I can't read the screen to see what is happening so please tell what happen > > when pressing only the alt key. > > > > I tried it this way, with no results. > > I will try it with control. > > Teddy, > > orasnita@home.ro > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janina Sajka" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Get Out Of Jail Free! > > > > > > No, Greg, leave the Ctrl key in. Read the rest of my note to > > understand why. You'll thank me after you get Gnopernicus. > > > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > This is correct, however, drop the ctrl key. > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:43:49PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > > > > > > > Q: How to become root in another console? > > > > > > > > Use Ctrl-Alt-FX (where X is a number 1 to 6) meaning use the > > > > function keys on the top row of the qwerty keyboard. You know > > > > what function keys are, right? > > > > > > > > Use this key cvombination to go to a console where you are not > > > > logged in and login as root. > > > > > > > > Alternatively, I believe you wrote the other day that you telnet > > > > to your linux machine from your Windows machine? Well, if emacs > > > > seems to go bad on you, go to your Windows machine and open a > > > > telnet session to your Linux machine. Just because emacs isn't > > > > talking doesn't mean your machine is dead. > > > > > > > > If you're already logged in via telnet from Windows as whatever > > > > you use for your username, type: > > > > > > > > su - > > > > > > > > and provide the root password. > > > > > > > > Actually, there's no reason not to open several telnet sessions > > > > from your Windows machine. Your Windows is capable of that, isn't > > > > it? > > > > > Q: How can I read the screen if emacspeak is not speaking? I want to > > find > > > > > out the PID of the process I should kill. > > > > > > > > > In a different console or a different telnet session. You can > > > > open more than one at a time, you know. This is Linux, not > > > > Windows. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > Chair, Accessibility SIG > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > > http://www.openebook.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup