From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1I7ZjT-00023D-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:35:35 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so1207131ugf for ; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.108.9 with SMTP id g9mr6128733buc.1183912533547; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Parham ( [82.99.202.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e8sm57652567muf.2007.07.08.09.34.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <02b001c7c17d$f27f99f0$ccca6352@Parham> From: "Parham" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <01b401c7c082$1aeba200$ccca6352@Parham><20070707180010.GA27672@localhost.localdomain><014601c7c0d3$6bfb6b20$ccca6352@Parham><1183849345.23024.29.camel@taylor.homelinux.net><006901c7c118$1521a1d0$ccca6352@Parham> <1183911768.3596.23.camel@layla.Mshome> Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:02:20 +0330 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:35:35 -0000 VMWare is free? If yes, would you give me the address to download it? And is it possible to run it under Windows XP? Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: Some Questions About Linux And SpeakUp > Speakup and orca perform two different tasks, they work on different > parts of the operating system. To understand this you will need to > understand the difference of the text console and the GUI in Linux. > > The text console of Linux, is a purely text based system. If you wish to > make a Ms comparison, the text console is like DOS. The text console > provides nearly (possibly all) the apps you will need. Many use the text > console as it is simpler, faster, and to some a preferable way to work. > The GUI is a Windows like environment. This environment may be more > welcoming to a person used to using Ms Windows, as in the GUI there are > all the usual things you expect, menus, list views, etc, meaning you > don't necessarily need to know how to use it fully (where as in the text > console you really need to know the commands). These two environments > are entirely separate, but you can have both environments on the system > (to use another Ms comparison, in the days of windows 95 it was possible > to use a proper DOS environment but you could also load into windows on > that one machine, Linux is like this, not like windows XP where the only > DOS like environment is a command window). > > Now to explain why you would need speakup and orca. Speakup works only > for the text console (again in Ms terms, DOS screen readers could only > read DOS), and Orca only works in the GUI (a windows screen reader only > works in windows or a command prompt window, not a full DOS system). In > the GUI in Linux, there are command prompt terminal windows which work > with Orca, but I don't think Orca works as well as speakup does when I > want to do text commands. > > One thing I would say, remember Linux stuff is generally free, so if you > have the time, you may just want to try a few distros to find out what > suits you. You may wish to use a virtual machine system such as vmware > to save having to keep reformatting drives while you just try things out > and then when you have decided you could install your choice properly so > you are running directly in Linux. > > It can be hard to answer some of the questions you have asked as alot > comes down to personal preference, so that is why I suggested try some > out and make your choice. > > From > Michael Whapples > On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 07:55 +0330, Parham wrote: >> Sorry, something is not clear here. If Ubuntu has a screen reader itself, >> why do I need the support of Speakup? >> And also, Orca doesn't support command lines? >> Yes. So far Ubuntu is very good since I want something which has gui and >> the >> text version both together, but these questions that I mentioned above >> would >> be what I will help me decide. >> Thanks for your help, both. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup