From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms-smtp-01-lbl.southeast.rr.com ([24.25.9.100] helo=ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DIHVG-0001CR-00 for ; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:39:50 -0400 Received: from geekspeak (cpe-024-074-098-208.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.98.208]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id j342djLv026764 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01f501c538bf$95115fe0$6401a8c0@geekspeak> From: "Laura Eaves" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20050402033428.GA27641@romuald.net.eu.org> <20050402131516.GA9263@blackbox> <013601c538b8$50c03980$6401a8c0@geekspeak> <004001c538b9$3dcbf890$4e31e444@nedelko83f1172> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:39:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Slackware is dropping Gnome X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:39:50 -0000 Well for one, the TeDUB project www.tedub.org and also I believe M$ is working on something for VISIO No knowledge on details of the latter however ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ned" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 9:54 PM Subject: Re: Slackware is dropping Gnome Hi, "... Also, a lot has been done with blind access to UML diagrams and such used in OO programming, and it would be nice if these types of tools were available ..." Actually, I am looking for some. Can you mention some of them? Many thanks! Ned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Eaves" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Slackware is dropping Gnome > Hi -- I actually disagree as there are many blind users of windows who use > the MS Office apps heavily, by necessity, who would benefit greatly from > gnome based versions of these apps -- or at least gnome versions that can > process the same file formats so that the documents are portable. > Also, a lot has been done with blind access to UML diagrams and such used > in > OO programming, and it would be nice if these types of tools were > available > on linux/unix for used by a workplace with mixed blind and sighted > employees. > Anyway before I get in too deeply, I have not yet tried gnome or > gnopernicus. And the culture of the speakup list is to go text instead of > graphical, but since I spent so amny years resisting that awful monster > windows from invading my space only to switch to jaws/window yes and > windows > when I lost my vision finally, I do think the work on gnome is a good > thing, > not to replace speakup but to have that in the works for handling new > advances as they come out, even if the interface is graphical. > Off box...*smile* > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kenny Hitt" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 9:15 AM > Subject: Re: Slackware is dropping Gnome > > > Hi. > Although the sighted community will be missing what seems to be a good > desktop, I don't think the blind community is missing much by not having > Gnome. > > Kenny > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 11:00:29PM -0700, Joseph C. Lininger wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Well, I maintain a mirror of slackware-current on my ftp server, and >> gnome has in fact been removed. I don't think they're joking folks. >> >> Equal causes can produce very unequal effects. >> Joseph C. Lininger >> jbahm@pcdesk.net >> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7 >> >> And so it came to pass that on Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Adam Myrow said >> >> >On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> > >> >> Hmm, I suppose this could be an April fools joke, couldn't it? If it's >> >> not, then they certainly picked an interesting date to announce this. >> > >> >Actually, it was buried in with several other things dated 3/26/05, so >> >I'd >> >say it's no joke. I guess when the next version of Slackware comes out, >> >I >> >will be trying to download one of those other Gnome packages. Well, I >> >haven't gotten Gnopernicus to work in Slackware 10.1 anyway, but I >> >haven't >> >really put much effort into it. >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Speakup mailing list >> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFCTjUDJ6dqn0mqPbARAt9qAJ9YPW2pYV3rHUYcyWCWCcr3zEoHqQCg8gM4 >> BuJPmk+HUGixG9XFkMXZK5E= >> =yVUL >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup