From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from home.rdsnet.ro ([193.231.236.40] helo=relay1.home.ro) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ALxQ-0008Ha-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:34:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 345 invoked from network); 22 May 2002 02:34:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (213.233.73.175) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 22 May 2002 02:34:35 -0000 Message-ID: <014601c20139$606d1380$af49e9d5@microsoft.com> From: "Octavian Rasnita" To: References: <035e01c1ffad$b947f390$bd49e9d5@microsoft.com> <15592.63651.703710.572888@akp@eznet.net> Subject: Re: Get Out Of Jail Free! Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:31:07 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks for advice. I would like to do that but the DecTalk PC 1 internal sinthesizer is not supported by Speakup. Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Get Out Of Jail Free! Hi all, Excuse my simple language but it is needed here. Teddy, do you understand the word "console"? Do you know what it means when we talk about Linux? You run Emacspeak in one console, your other consoles are free. You can run six separate consoles at one time. You can use six consoles at the same time. Hook up that decTalk internal, install speakup and Emacspeak and use both. Ann P. >>>>> "Octavian" == Octavian Rasnita writes: Octavian> Hi, Thank you, a few questions: 1.) Become root in Octavian> another console and kill the application Octavian> Q: How to become root in another console? Octavian> that is giving you trouble. In Octavian's example the Octavian> application is emacs, so here's the appropriate command Octavian> for root to give in another console: Octavian> killall emacs Octavian> 2.) If all else fails, kill the console session as root Octavian> from another console. get a listing of everything Octavian> running in the console where you got stuck. If that Octavian> console is tty1, for example, you would do: Octavian> ps -t tty1 Octavian> This will print out a list of all the running processes Octavian> in tty1. Find the one that says "bash" on the right Octavian> hand side of the line, and note the process id, called Octavian> pid, on the left. Then kill that pid as follows: Octavian> kill -9 pid Octavian> where pid is the process id you identified for bash Octavian> above. Octavian> Q: How can I read the screen if emacspeak is not Octavian> speaking? I want to find out the PID of the process I Octavian> should kill. Octavian> There are more elegant ways to get out of trouble, but Octavian> these two will keep you learning and keep you from Octavian> wasting time rebooting. Octavian> To learn more about these things look at the man pages Octavian> for killall, kill, pidof, and ps. Octavian> Thanks. Octavian> -- Octavian> Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Octavian> Development Governmental Relations Group American Octavian> Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Octavian> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Octavian> Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum Octavian> (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Octavian> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint Octavian> attachments. See Octavian> http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Octavian> _______________________________________________ Speakup Octavian> mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca Octavian> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup Octavian> _______________________________________________ Speakup Octavian> mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca Octavian> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup