From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([24.0.95.128]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16WshF-0000jX-00 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2002 00:26:41 -0500 Received: from cj2204215a ([68.50.5.81]) by femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20020202052646.ZDCS18525.femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj2204215a> for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 21:26:46 -0800 Message-ID: <012f01c1aba9$5a60ca80$0100a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Amanda Lee" To: References: <20020201114511.B233@uic.edu> <20020201223716.C478@uic.edu> <011101c1aba3$2edc6820$0100a8c0@mshome.net> <20020201232207.A1343@uic.edu> Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 00:20:39 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Reply-To: "Amanda Lee" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Great! now I can sleep at night! hahaah! Thanks! Amanda Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" To: Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:22 AM Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... > Looks fine to me Amanda. > Greg > > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:36:29PM -0500, Amanda Lee wrote: > > Greg, > > > > How's mine look now? ... Mercy! sakes! I'm afraid to ask! cuz! I've opened > > up the shooting gallery hahahah! > > > > Amanda Lee > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gregory Nowak" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:37 PM > > Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list... > > > > > > > Perhaps, it would be a good idea for someone using outlook (I haven't used > > it for over a year now), to write a specific document detailing which radio > > buttons and so on should be checked or unchecked to set outlook up properly. > > It is true that this could be figured out, but there are some people out > > there that just won't take the time to find out how to configure outlook > > properly for blind lists. What's even worse is that some people don't even > > know how to find out how to configure outlook. They let their isps set > > things up for them with automated software, and they think that's it. > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 01:41:00PM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote: > > > > Greg: > > > > Maybe they can't aford a modem, but they sure can adjust settings to > > reduce > > > > crap in their out-going mail, and if they don't know how, then find > > someone > > > > who can help get through the settings and change it. The idea, that an > > > > empty message from a standard windows email client contains about 2K of > > > > nothing is just stupid and a waste... > > > > > > > > Brian Borowski > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fortunately, this doesn't appply to me anymore since I got broadband. > > But, you know, hardware modems are not exactly cheap. Yes, there are some > > gnu/linux drivers for windows modems, but not everyone has a supported > > modem. So, if you'd like people on this list to be using pine, mutt, ETC. > > for their mail, take into consideration the fact that not everyone here can > > aford a new modem, or an expensive broadband connection. > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:20:50AM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote: > > > > > > I guess this has been discussed bofore, but I can't help doing it > > again. > > > > > > Why do so many people use outlook and other Windows utilities to > > post to > > > > > > this list? It's understandable if you're a new user, but doing it > > for a > > > > > > year or two, makes me wonder; if you're a Windows user and never > > want to > > > > > > use linux to do your stuff; get off the list, and stop polluting it > > with > > > > > > crap. If you're a windows user, and insist on posting (especially > > for > > > > > > some of those high-volume posters), then change your settings so > > that we > > > > > > don't have to se a couple of Kbytes of header, and shut off the damn > > html > > > > > > repeat of your message that shows up at the end. It may come as a > > big > > > > > > surprise to some people, but when us people who use pine and other > > mail > > > > > > readers have to go through hundreds of messages; we don't want to > > see > > > > > > (hear) all that garbage; it's a nuisance, and it slows us down > > terribly, > > > > > > just trying to get through the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, I'm in complete agreement with the complaints about including > > > > > > messages including messages, including messages within eachother > > until > > > > > > things get huge; it's a waste of bandwidth, and time. I also > > notice, that > > > > > > some users seem to post multiple copies of their messages; please, > > have > > > > > > pity on us who read our mail? While I'm complaining: > > > > > > Why do people include 50 or 100 lines of others messages, and then > > put > > > > > > their one line comment about it right at the end of all that stuff? > > My > > > > > > advice, is that if you're going to include all that stuff, and have > > five or > > > > > > ten words to say about; why not put your comment at the top, and > > save us > > > > > > all that reading through stuff we've probably already seen before > > so many > > > > > > times? > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Borowski > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >