From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([24.254.60.15]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16XS0r-0007SO-00 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2002 14:09:17 -0500 Received: from cp286066a ([68.50.224.13]) by femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20020203190919.ZXWV23516.femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cp286066a> for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 11:09:19 -0800 Message-ID: <011601c1ace6$4828bf10$0de03244@cp286066a> From: "David Poehlman" To: References: Subject: Re: blind friendly or people friendly Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 14:09:18 -0500 Organization: Hands-on Technolog(eye)s X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: but they allow you to be conformant so why not? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Hunt" To: Cc: "Speakup Distribution List" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:42 PM Subject: Re: blind friendly or people friendly In principal, I agree. However, to many, my employers included, Microsoft is the industry. -Dave On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, David Poehlman wrote: > I agree. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles Hallenbeck" > To: "Speakup Distribution List" > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 1:27 PM > Subject: blind friendly or people friendly > > > All the recent posts about how to configure outlook express to be > "blind friendly" is a little troubling to me. It seems to me that > the issue is bigger than that. There are industry standards, and > there are Microsoft standards, and often the problem comes > because the two are not the same. One way to resolve the problem > is for everyone, blind or otherwise, to use outlook express and > thus use Microsoft standards everywhere. But the world is larger > than Microsoft, and many of us who use Linux follow the industry > standard - e.g., plain text for email, iso8859-1 for a standard > western character set, and the like. > > Another way to resolve the problem is for users of outlook > express, blind or otherwise, to configure their software to > adhere to industry standards rather than Microsoft standards. I > think that is very different from being "blind friendly"... It is > being "people friendly". > > Grumpily - Chuck > > > Visit me now at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck > The Moon is Waning Gibbous (59% of Full) > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup