From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net ([207.108.112.1]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 168ljm-0006uf-00 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:09:39 -0500 Received: (qmail 12575 invoked by uid 50); 27 Nov 2001 17:09:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12569 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 2001 17:09:37 -0000 Received: from tcsndslgw4poold213.tcsn.uswest.net (HELO lightstar) (65.100.98.213) by tcsnpop1.tcsn.uswest.net with SMTP; 27 Nov 2001 17:09:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Jason To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: Lindows preview. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:10:21 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01112710102100.19715@lightstar> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: OK, here's the deal on "lindows" It uses "Wine", a "Windows compatability layer" for linux. Wine requires X. My best guess is that JAWS for windows won't run under Wine. I don't have a copy to test with myself, but knowing what I do about the way Wine seperates programs from each other quite a bit more than Windows does I doubt the needed "common ground" that JAWS depends on would be present. Oh yeah, as an aside, the version of Wine that lindows will ship with is modified slightly; it contains significantly better support for DirectX and OpenGL than the regular version of Wine. On a completely unrelated note, it could be possible to write a version of Wine that doesn't use X and simply dumps text to a console for speakup, or whatever else, to read. No, I'm not volunteering for that project :-P But if anytone happens to want to start a project to hack X and the relevent toolkit libraries into accessible submission, I'll join, I've even got the beginnings of a structure worked out for all of it. (hmmm.... this e-mail got a lot longer than I intended) On Tuesday November 27, 2001 02:35 am, you wrote: > the same question occurred to me too. > but it also occurred to me that if lindows is able to run both linux and > windows programs as suggested, would you not be able to run your > existing windows screen reader as well as speakup? > of course not at the same time > I thought that the idea of lindows was to have a thin translation layer > for interpreting windows stuff. > at least that's what I remember from what I've seen about it anyway. > On