From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from home.rdsnet.ro ([193.231.236.40] helo=relay1.home.ro) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17A0HU-0001x6-00 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 23:25:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 27445 invoked from network); 21 May 2002 03:25:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (213.233.73.118) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 21 May 2002 03:25:50 -0000 Message-ID: <00ff01c20077$5d1ac960$7649e9d5@microsoft.com> From: "Octavian Rasnita" To: References: <02d301c1ffa8$ca37fce0$bd49e9d5@microsoft.com> <20020519232535.C18147@romualt.dhs.org> Subject: Re: interesting experiment. Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 08:16:23 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: No, you're right. I don't use speakup though I would like to. I've read on speakup web page that there is working in progress for making the Dec Talk PC 1 card accessible for speakup and I've subscribed hoping that I will find out if there is support or not. Or if there it will ever be. Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:25 AM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. We're all assuming he's using speakup since he's here. But from all of Tedy's comments in other posts, I am beginning to get the impression that he's not, since he seems to be asking for screen readers which support software tts. Greg On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:58:09PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote: > Try man < emacs|less then use the speakup keys to read line by line, or > word by word if you wish. you can bring up the next page by hitting the > space bar. > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > > > Please enlighten me. > > I never used the Jaws cursor in the new HTML help format under Windows. > > Select an item in the tree view, press enter, then press F6 and it will > > automaticly start reading that help item. It is a simple HTML file there, > > and it works exactly as simple as Internet Explorer. > > You don't need the Jaws cursor at all. > > > > You needed the Jaws cursor only for some bad designed help files in the old > > .hlp format. > > Now in the new .chm format, you don't have any problems. > > > > But this doesn't matter too much. Please tell me how to navigate the man > > pages. > > I type man mv, for example. > > It starts to print all the help file, but maybe I want to move with a page > > up then down, etc. > > > > I know this is possible. Thanks. > > Teddy, > > orasnita@home.ro > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shaun Oliver" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:05 AM > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > SNIP > > > > You open a window, and it explains you what you should do there. > > > > You have to press the space bar to check some checkboxes, to press some > > > > buttons, etc, and if you don't know something, press shift+f10 (or the > > right > > > > mouse button and choose "what's this?" or press F1 to view the help file > > > > wich is much much more easier to navigate than the man pages under > > Linux. > > SNIP > > > > A fake. > > man pages under GNU/Linux are a lot easier to navigate than windows help > > pages. > > you need to route the jaws cursor to the pc and then fart around trying to > > find what you were looking for. > > even with the new features in jfw I seriously doubt you could navigate a > > help file easier than a man page.. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup