From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pop.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20] helo=mail.gmx.net) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 179QY2-00035c-00 for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 09:16:30 -0400 Received: (qmail 32550 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 2002 13:16:00 -0000 Received: from dhcp250-10-151-24.nt01-c5.cpe.charter-ne.com (HELO computer) (24.151.10.250) by mail.gmx.net (mp006-rz3) with SMTP; 19 May 2002 13:16:00 -0000 Message-ID: <00f501c1ff37$3d668e60$fa0a9718@nt.charterne.com> From: "Alex Snow" To: References: <004501c1feeb$c87401a0$6401a8c0@cable.rcn.com> Subject: Re: Free, Open Streaming Media Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 09:15:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Reply-To: "Alex Snow" List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Yeah, and doesn't it compress better than mp3? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Caloggero" To: Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 12:15 AM Subject: Free, Open Streaming Media > The OGG Vorbis format is not proprietary, and was explicitly created to stay > that way. > http://www.vorbis.com > > Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Myrow" > To: > Sent: 17 May, 2002 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: java/java script/ya ain't missing much > > > The theory of the Javascript submit button (at least as I understand it,) > is that it makes the client do data verification rather than the server. > For example, if you are making an online purchase, and you enter 1 too > many digits in your credit card number, the client would catch this before > the data got uploaded to the server and sent to a bank and then returned > as invalid. I still think that it's just laziness. I remember in college > that I had a professor who used Java script on his web page that was > needed for class. This was back in the days of IE3 and Netscape 3.01. As > you can imagine, it was real hard to use. Almost impossible, in fact. > Even when I explained it to him, he flat refused to replace the > Javascript. > > Now, as for those Javascript links, I think the only thing they do is > serve you those annoying popup adds. I can't stand how so many sites with > Real Audio content happily use those things. Oh, speaking of Real media, > did anybody notice how they switched to that "Real One" player, abandoned > Linux and Windows 95, and from what I hear, the new player is > inaccessible. Shows how much they care about their users! I think > somebody needs to come up with a GPL streaming format. Every audio/video > streaming format I know of is proprietary. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >