From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com ([216.148.227.87]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1798VJ-00040i-00 for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 14:00:29 -0400 Received: from mycomputer ([24.62.38.156]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020518180001.CBJL14522.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@mycomputer> for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 18:00:01 +0000 Message-ID: <00a101c1fe95$9f640900$02263e18@mycomputer> From: "Igor Gueths" To: References: <002201c1fe2b$4d8cb380$ea1efea9@PreferedCustomer> Subject: Re: interesting experiment. 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What do you use for a disk editor?=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Pete To: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 1:17 AM Subject: Re: interesting experiment. >=20 > You know what really sucks is freedom scientific wont sell me a = lisence > for winblows N T 4.0. they first want me to upgrade to jfw402 from = 33135 > befor they will sell me a liscense for windows NT OS. according to = there > tech support I don't need jfw higher than jfw 3.2 to use windows N T = so how > can it be leagle for Freedom scientific to force me to buy an upgrade = I > don't need befor they will sell me the authorisation for windows N T = for > JFW? I to am ashaimed I didn't protest the JFW in place of another = screen > reading product for win blows more than I did!! OH, yah, by the way = > Freedom scientifuc wants $660 to make the wonderful world of jaws = available > to me! WoW! I'am just soooo Happy I,---- can't F_______ stand it! = I > have a disk editing program. It can write more than 512 bit sectors on = a > floppy track if you want it to. So any ways Good luck to all! > Pete >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shaun Oliver" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 12:44 AM > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. >=20 >=20 > > I take your point. > > having said that however, I don't see the reason for paying $500 = just for > > some 1.44 mb diskett with hard errors on it just so I can screw up > > windcrap 2000 or windcrap xp. > > no wonder I went to linux. > > it cost me bugger all. > > > > > > On Fri, 17 May 2002, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > Hi Greg. Just put a robots.txt file on the server and this should = thwart > most bots. It would however be better to discuss this stuff off-list > probably. Get everyone who wants to work on this, and everyone cc's = each > other's messages so everyone in the project gets that msg. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gregory Nowak > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment. > > > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > > > I've been following this thread about the disk copying and = stuff. I > was wondering if you were aware that the archive for this list is = accessible > to anyone on the whole web? This means that all you are writing about = is out > there for the picking unless Kirk decides to remove it from the = archive > before google or any other search engine gets a cache of that archive. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 02:32:06PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote: > > > > > Hi Shaun. It seems that some of the sectors are write = protected. I'd > > > > > really like to know how they control the disk writing process, > because > > > > > this would give us some good insite on how they generate keys. > > > > > > > > > > Gates go to hell, your OS is waiting for you there! > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 17 May 2002, Shaun Oliver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > hi. > > > > > > I just tryed to use dd to see if in fact it would copy my = jfw > > > > > > authorization disk and, as expected, it wouldn't. > > > > > > here's my output from dd to aid some poor unfortunate that = still > may want > > > > > > to persue this activity. > > > > > > captain-nemo@borg:~$ dd if=3D/dev/fd0 of=3Dauth.img > > > > > > end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2870 > > > > > > end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2874 > > > > > > end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2876 > > > > > > end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2878 > > > > > > end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 2870 > > > > > > dd: /dev/fd0: Input/output error > > > > > > 2864+0 records in > > > > > > 2864+0 records out > > > > > > captain-nemo@borg:~$ > > > > > > hth > > > > > > Shaun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup