From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com (mail-fx0-f213.google.com [209.85.220.213]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355CF10B16 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so8082979fxm.17 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=qivzpxeX35Fy2/uRgdMLJ635s4Ls/i4PX/2Le4UWCYg=; b=rowqstWWCI8nK/IOHVW4M/ccZ5Wlq6vORNxyiBWXdydf3meTw98z+YUfbt0o1vvTLg fj8YNDpJWgB2e0EttAPazDr+GCeAis/6Bzf1UIv7y3Yw5xdBCYFWVvqQsunAEDnPhJpl lPfRU2JnwVeAI1ACVI+t83de8rvpjop/PCdNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=WGJG+MgQD/mJffRucNV2YNvTj7Obj9Ys0MYrZhNbi80Gb4HQnQy1jiE86nPccSVKra GLiuQX19KjjHRhxgo+Tqt+dyhqUq4lnHD949BFHAzVoaSRPDOHHj0urFFAMG6wW5yEKn XkdbI8d8opyGWLyGrgSihGUZw92AfyvLrbSK4= Received: by 10.86.59.2 with SMTP id h2mr7801413fga.73.1243938758446; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JA1 (82-32-43-15.cable.ubr06.aztw.blueyonder.co.uk [82.32.43.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm11176806fga.20.2009.06.02.03.32.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00D66FE6B8DF4D829A998122327CBDDA@JA1> From: "James & Nash" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20090524063526.GA10264@clearwire.net><1243808975.3051.42.camel@orchid.sented-plants.local> <4A23B9DE.3050406@baechler.net><4768A70D639C479C82277950DAEF2C16@math.wisc.edu> <4A24F073.9040606@baechler.net> Subject: Re: Vinux Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:32:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 10:32:39 -0000 Hi Tony, So how do you tell Debian that you want to use speakup during the installation? Thanks james lyn Nash and Twinny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Baechler" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:27 AM Subject: Re: Vinux > Ah, this I understand. I was unaware that the live CD would come up > talking. That is a valid point and I can see why people would like that. > Oralux was supposed to do the same thing, but it didn't work for me. > Again, that opens up a bunch of other issues, such as what if there are > multiple sound cards? What if Linux doesn't support the driver for your > sound card? The advantage to something like grml is that you have more > flexibility, even though it requires typing the right thing within the > right number of seconds. You can have software speech, hardware speech if > you have a hardware synth, or no speech if you would rather use ssh, or a > combination of the above. I was working on someone else's machine when > for no obvious reason, grml lost software speech. I couldn't do much > without speech, but it wasn't a problem. I just set up dhcp, started an > ssh server and finished from a different machine. Yes, a new blind user > won't know about that, but the point is that you aren't locked into one > method of doing things, even though it does mean entering boot parameters. > > I must say that I really like the way Debian handles this with the > installation. It beeps to let you know that it's booted and doesn't > timeout right away. It also is smart enough to install Speakup > automatically if you use it to do the install. > > John G. Heim wrote: >> The main reason for something like vinux is that a lot of people have a >> hard time just getting started with linux. Over on a list for blind >> sysadmins, the question comes up just about every time someone mentions >> live CDs -- is there one that comes up talking without my having to just >> the right key at just the right time. >> >> People are already struggling with linux, they don't want to have to >> struggle to get speech started too. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup