From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from home.rdsnet.ro ([193.231.236.40] helo=relay1.home.ro) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17ALcn-0006vi-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:13:13 -0400 Received: (qmail 21106 invoked from network); 22 May 2002 02:13:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp) (213.233.73.175) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 22 May 2002 02:13:15 -0000 Message-ID: <009c01c20136$65980ac0$af49e9d5@microsoft.com> From: "Octavian Rasnita" To: References: <006601c20021$99238d80$b0005112@vantaa> <006601c20021$99238d80$b0005112@vantaa> <5.1.0.14.2.20020520134346.029c9310@198.144.194.210> Subject: Re: free terminal emulator for windows - download and install Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 09:02:56 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: There is NCSA Telnet. It works fine and I've heard that it is very accessible with a dos screen reader. It is available from NCSA FTP site, but I don't know the address. Teddy, orasnita@home.ro ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Crawford" To: Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: Re: free terminal emulator for windows - download and install Window eyes uses the insert-a for speak all when you are in teraterm. That program is not all that good from my experience. I just wish there were a good dos telnet program that coudl run from the dos window.. -- Charlie. At 12:54 PM 5/20/02 -0500, you wrote: >You mention jaws scripts. Are there window-eyes set files too? Or does it >work fine without them. >Greg > > >On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 01:12:56PM -0400, Rich Caloggero wrote: > > Janina wrote: > > > > Another option would be a better screen reader for telnet and a > > > > better telnet client. That would mean a good DOS screen reader > > > > like asap or Vocal-Eyes, assuming he can actually run DOS on that > > > > Windows machine. Neither of those is very cheap, though, and > > > > I use a free windows terminal emulator called teraterm. I redefine the jaws > > function sayNonHighlightedText to read everything appearing on the screen, > > as long as its not a menu or in a dialog box (about 7 lines of code. Go to > > http://barajas.mit.edu/teraterm/ to get the package. Just unzip it into a > > directory somewhere and click on ttermpro.exe for the standard version or > > ttssh.exe for the ssh version. Both report the application name is > > ttermpro.exe, so the jaws scripts will work regardless. > > The jaws scripts are in ttermpro.zip. Download this file, extract to your > > jaws scripts directory, and then either press enter on this script filename > > from within windows explorer or press insert+f2 and choose script manager > > and open the file from there. Once you have the file, press control+s to > > save and compile it. Now you should be able to run teraterm and jaws should > > speak correctly. > > > > The real problem is text editing. I use ex (vi without the full-screen > > stuff - basically ed ), but only crazy people like me probably want to go > > this way. I need to try a full screen editor and make it work via a > terminal > > emulator. VI might be a good choice, but the key bindings only make > sense if > > you know about ed. What's the other choices for full screen editing which > > are *not* emacs? I've heard of something called vim (is this correct)? > > There's pico and probably others. I need to try and make this work for > > myself too, because using ex is nice in some ways, but its more typing than > > I really want to do with my RSI the way it is. > > > > I can help more with this if needed. Its not the greatest solution, but it > > works very well for me. The terminal emulator is very very stable. Its > > worked on every version of windows I've tried it on with the same results. > > > > Hope this helps someone -- Teddy especially. Please don't hesitate to > ask me > > for more help. I will be unavailable for the next week or so, but after the > > 28th, I'll be able to answer e-mail again. > > > > Rich Caloggero > > MIT Adaptive Tech. for Info and Computing > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup