From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.comcast.net ([24.153.64.2]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16lKuO-000814-00 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:24:01 -0500 Received: from cj2204215a (pcp706460pcs.alxndr01.va.comcast.net [68.50.5.81]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Feb 6 2002)) with SMTP id <0GSX003YZYNAN6@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:23:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:09:32 -0500 From: Amanda Lee Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Message-id: <009a01c1cafe$4a4319e0$6501a8c0@alxndr01.va.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Reply-To: Amanda Lee List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi folks! In retrospect, everything afore-mentioned in this thread is most definitely applicable to Speakup since the root purpose was to ascertain that Speakup plus lynx plus Linux which is the Operating System supporting all of the items above are able to work together with the application itself which is Bookshare. As for the ensuing tangential thread! know what! it's still aplicable because the Access and Usability issues discussed herein are also most definitely related. There are many aspects which involve Speakup which naturally emerge because all parties involved in this effort are essentially in their own unique universe. There is really no other forum quite like this one whereby we may work together as a community comprised of naturally evolving teams to resolve the unique issues of Speakup. This List is not for the casual user nor for the user who desires a tightly controled environment. For such constraints would severely stiffal the positive outcomes which naturally emerge from our candid and open interactions. Amanda Lee Alexandria, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:09 PM Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster Hi Well, I'm glad for this discussion for a number of reasons. Primarily because I can now access my account with the Open University because a lister responded that Debian users need to apt-get install lynx-ssl. Perhaps the list owner has commented upon the appropriateness of the discussion or not but I'd be suprised if such gags are supported. Gena >Hi all, > >I did that very thing, Mr. Petersen, and I believe that we may be >getting somewhere. If my complaints are too loud for you, I'm sorry. >You see, I happen to believe strongly that no matter what one does to >aid persons with disabilities, the primary directive should be >Universal Access. This means that when you start a project, you build >it so that it is accessible to all from the get-go, not a project that >needs to be retro-fitted. Retro-fitting has been the way of >making materials, buildings, transportation and everything else >accessible. It's time it stopped, frankly, stopped now! We have to >think in terms of *all* users, not just the fortunate few, all users, >that includes every single person who might want to access whatever >the heck it is. > >If I am disappointed in something, I say so. I believe that Bookshare >is making an effort to remedy the problem, and having the discussion >on here is right because it involves access to something via Linux. > What better place to find programmers for Linux than on a >Linux list? What better place to find programmers for making >something accessible than on a list devoted to accessibility of the >Linux system to persons who are blind? > >Ann P. > >P.S., It may interest you to know that I thought Janina was writing >to me privately last night. That's how come I was so frank in my >post. Seems my mail blooper started a whopping discussion, >though. So, I have continued it. > >A.P. > >-- > Ann K. Parsons >email: akp@eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 >WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp >"All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup